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* '''Keep''' [[User:ELApro|ELApro]] ([[User talk:ELApro|talk]]) 21:04, 14 December 2016 (UTC)... Gallegos has produced the notable ThoughtAudio, a first class, highly ranked web site which ''gives away, free of charge'', audio books professionally narrated by Michael Scott Gallegos in his own professional recording studio at Michael Scott Studios. The web site can be compared with librivox.org or archive.org (although offering lesser quantities of literature) as far as making free audio recordings of classic literature available to the general public, worldwide. The income from these free audio book distributions is based upon donations. It is internationally ranked amongst the ten highest English language audio book web sites. Its global audience geography is roughly as follows: U.S. 24%; India 10%; Egypt 10%; Russia 2%; 54% other coutries across the globe. Some statistics on his site may be verified at Alexa.com...<br />http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/thoughtaudio.com<br />The fact that there is no Wikipedia page on Gallegos is not relevant to the notability question. I have also initiated other articles, such as "[[Henri Levaufre]]," which do not yet have corresponding wikipedia articles. Henri has only published one book, but this does not detract from his "notability."<br />The article's quotes are not from a "personal blog." They are offered with the classic literary works that Gallegos has professionally narrated for ThoughtAudio. He is a noted photographer in the San Francisco/Oakland area and is "official photographer of Jack London Square, premier distination site for the city of Oakland, CA," as noted in the introduction to the article. His production company, Michael Scott Studios, was commissioned to create photographs for the book ''[https://www.amazon.com/Oakland-Welcomes-World-Ellen-Butler/dp/1885352271/ Oakland Welcomes the World]'' (1996), also as noted in the introduction.<br />In answer to the criticism about the "Quotes about Gallegos" section, there existed no such section until the notability question of Gallegos was placed on the table. That section was created for entries verifying the notability of his works by independent 3rd parties (the issue raised by the tag placed into the article, without previous discussion) and it includes eduational institutions, among other independent parties utilizing his free audio books site. I will be glad to move some of the quotes under that section to the notability discussion pages, if they are being interpreted as "blurbs saying little more than that it is available," as long as they will be recognized as recognition of the quality of his productions from independent 3rd parties, the issue under discussion.<br />The "notable" link to wiktionary in the article's introduction was also added in response to the notability criticism. As noted, this definition is "1. Useful; profitable. 2. Prudent; clever; capable; industrious; thrifty." All fulfilled by Gallegos and his professional works.<br />There are no links to Gallegos' other production companies, such as his fine art gallery (michaelscottgallegos.com) and his digital media production studios (xlrq.com) which specializes in elearning content development for corporate universities and training systems. References are made only as descriptions of his professional recordings and other freely accessible professional productions.<br />The quality of the quotes in the article are also notable. It is my opinion that they are entertaining and contain a few philosophically oriented observations of interest and value, not to mention that they simply make for some fun reading and for an opportunity to share the artist/writer's unique and ingenious viewpoint with respect to our modern, technological world. The high quality photographs that he has contributed to the public domain at the wikimedia commons in association with the article are also of value.<br />In response to the comment: "I notice that on the same day the article was created (by a regular contributor) a single-purpose account named Michaelscottstudios was registered, uploaded some images at Commons, and added them to the article. This is suggestive of a conflict of interest or personal involvement with the subject of the article..." I will say that I notified Gallegos after creating the entry, and am delighted that he contributed the photographs. I also worked with Christian Levaufre, the son of [[Henri Levaufre]], in the research and preparation for his father's article, and with {{w|Wendell Tangborn}}, the highly respected Seattle-based glaciologist, in preparation for his Wikipedia entry, and for that of his brother, {{w|Virgil John Tangborn}}, a Silver Star recipient who sacrificed his life during the Normandy invasion. This is also true of other articles I have researched and created in Wikipedia and Wikiquotes, but I do not believe that this has detracted from the quality of those articles, or caused the notability of the subjects or the referenced material to be brought into question.

* '''Keep''' [[User:ELApro|ELApro]] ([[User talk:ELApro|talk]]) 21:04, 14 December 2016 (UTC)... Gallegos has produced the notable ThoughtAudio, a first class, highly ranked web site which ''gives away, free of charge'', audio books professionally narrated by Michael Scott Gallegos in his own professional recording studio at Michael Scott Studios. The web site can be compared with librivox.org or archive.org (although offering lesser quantities of literature) as far as making free audio recordings of classic literature available to the general public, worldwide. The income from these free audio book distributions is based upon donations. It is internationally ranked amongst the ten highest English language audio book web sites. Its global audience geography is roughly as follows: U.S. 24%; India 10%; Egypt 10%; Russia 2%; 54% other coutries across the globe. Some statistics on his site may be verified at Alexa.com...<br />http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/thoughtaudio.com<br />The fact that there is no Wikipedia page on Gallegos is not relevant to the notability question. I have also initiated other articles, such as "[[Henri Levaufre]]," which do not yet have corresponding wikipedia articles. Henri has only published one book, but this does not detract from his "notability."<br />The article's quotes are not from a "personal blog." They are offered with the classic literary works that Gallegos has professionally narrated for ThoughtAudio. He is a noted photographer in the San Francisco/Oakland area and is "official photographer of Jack London Square, premier distination site for the city of Oakland, CA," as noted in the introduction to the article. His production company, Michael Scott Studios, was commissioned to create photographs for the book ''[https://www.amazon.com/Oakland-Welcomes-World-Ellen-Butler/dp/1885352271/ Oakland Welcomes the World]'' (1996), also as noted in the introduction.<br />In answer to the criticism about the "Quotes about Gallegos" section, there existed no such section until the notability question of Gallegos was placed on the table. That section was created for entries verifying the notability of his works by independent 3rd parties (the issue raised by the tag placed into the article, without previous discussion) and it includes eduational institutions, among other independent parties utilizing his free audio books site. I will be glad to move some of the quotes under that section to the notability discussion pages, if they are being interpreted as "blurbs saying little more than that it is available," as long as they will be recognized as recognition of the quality of his productions from independent 3rd parties, the issue under discussion.<br />The "notable" link to wiktionary in the article's introduction was also added in response to the notability criticism. As noted, this definition is "1. Useful; profitable. 2. Prudent; clever; capable; industrious; thrifty." All fulfilled by Gallegos and his professional works.<br />There are no links to Gallegos' other production companies, such as his fine art gallery (michaelscottgallegos.com) and his digital media production studios (xlrq.com) which specializes in elearning content development for corporate universities and training systems. References are made only as descriptions of his professional recordings and other freely accessible professional productions.<br />The quality of the quotes in the article are also notable. It is my opinion that they are entertaining and contain a few philosophically oriented observations of interest and value, not to mention that they simply make for some fun reading and for an opportunity to share the artist/writer's unique and ingenious viewpoint with respect to our modern, technological world. The high quality photographs that he has contributed to the public domain at the wikimedia commons in association with the article are also of value.<br />In response to the comment: "I notice that on the same day the article was created (by a regular contributor) a single-purpose account named Michaelscottstudios was registered, uploaded some images at Commons, and added them to the article. This is suggestive of a conflict of interest or personal involvement with the subject of the article..." I will say that I notified Gallegos after creating the entry, and am delighted that he contributed the photographs. I also worked with Christian Levaufre, the son of [[Henri Levaufre]], in the research and preparation for his father's article, and with {{w|Wendell Tangborn}}, the highly respected Seattle-based glaciologist, in preparation for his Wikipedia entry, and for that of his brother, {{w|Virgil John Tangborn}}, a Silver Star recipient who sacrificed his life during the Normandy invasion. This is also true of other articles I have researched and created in Wikipedia and Wikiquotes, but I do not believe that this has detracted from the quality of those articles, or caused the notability of the subjects or the referenced material to be brought into question.

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** I am baffled by the assertion that these quotes are not from a personal blog. Every single one of them is cited to a post at https://cm3kz0ut.wordpress.com/ which, on reviewing the [https://cm3kz0ut.wordpress.com/posts/ list of posts], does not appear to be any other kind of thing than a blog. In fact, the cover page describes itself as "THE COMPLEX NOW WordPress Blog, the one you are reading right now." <p> Also, I have searched without success in the ''ThoughtAudio'' website for evidence that this material is ''part of its offerings'', rather than simply being offered by the same person. Can you provide a citation supporting your assertion that "They are offered with the classic literary works that Gallegos has professionally narrated for ThoughtAudio"? ~ [[User:Ningauble|Ningauble]] ([[User talk:Ningauble|talk]]) 14:50, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

* I think it's a problem that the quotes given in the article don't appear to be quoted in secondary sources, but as I found at least some of them interesting, I'm !voting '''weak keep''', on the authority of ELApro. Should this article be kept, the About section will need to be trimmed so it doesn't read too much like a promotional piece, as pointed out above. ~ [[User:DanielTom|DanielTom]] ([[User talk:DanielTom|talk]]) 11:11, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

* I think it's a problem that the quotes given in the article don't appear to be quoted in secondary sources, but as I found at least some of them interesting, I'm !voting '''weak keep''', on the authority of ELApro. Should this article be kept, the About section will need to be trimmed so it doesn't read too much like a promotional piece, as pointed out above. ~ [[User:DanielTom|DanielTom]] ([[User talk:DanielTom|talk]]) 11:11, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

* '''Keep''' — I can agree that some of the quotes that have been provided do not appear to be of extreme notability in themselves, but some clearly indicate a range of wit and wisdom far greater than that of those most inclined to severely condemn or absolutely exclude such observations.

* '''Keep''' — I can agree that some of the quotes that have been provided do not appear to be of extreme notability in themselves, but some clearly indicate a range of wit and wisdom far greater than that of those most inclined to severely condemn or absolutely exclude such observations.

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