Proposal: Every single piece of information "statement" added to Wikidata must be sourced, no exceptions:
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*{{support}} for items only qualifying for our notability guideline. It does not make sense to do this for non-article pages (like editing stats) - the RfC on non-article content hasn't concluded, so there's still that possibility.--[[User:Jasper Deng|Jasper Deng]] ([[User talk:Jasper Deng|talk]]) 23:16, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
*{{support}} for items only qualifying for our notability guideline. It does not make sense to do this for non-article pages (like editing stats) - the RfC on non-article content hasn't concluded, so there's still that possibility.--[[User:Jasper Deng|Jasper Deng]] ([[User talk:Jasper Deng|talk]]) 23:16, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
*{{neutral}} Sounds reasonable, but we need examples. I really would like to know first what is planned. Screenshots of the drafts would help. If there is a field called "source", what kind of content does it accept: Plain text or/and external links? --[[User:Kolja21|Kolja21]] ([[User talk:Kolja21|talk]]) 23:42, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
*{{neutral}} Sounds reasonable, but we need examples. I really would like to know first what is planned. Screenshots of the drafts would help. If there is a field called "source", what kind of content does it accept: Plain text or/and external links? --[[User:Kolja21|Kolja21]] ([[User talk:Kolja21|talk]]) 23:42, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
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* '''comment''' I think the proposal is very interesting, at least as a general rule. The last I heard was that references would not be enforced by the software but it would be possible to source any statement. In the document at [[m:Wikidata/Data_model#Statements]] the relation between the Statement and the ReferenceRecord is a zero-to-many. That means there can be none or many references given for a statement. If we should follow the proposal the relation would be changed to 1..* or simply +. The change in itself to enforce this in the software would not be difficult, but it could make it nearly impossible to construct statements. The reason is that you would not be able to create statements without adding the references at the same time. Because of this it would be difficult to have an absolute and software-supported rule for this, but as a general rule it could be wise. At least it would create a positive drive to source (mostly) everything. [[Special:Contributions/89.204.138.181|89.204.138.181]] 01:32, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
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* '''comment''' I think the proposal is very interesting, at least as a general rule. The last I heard was that references would not be enforced by the software but it would be possible to source any statement. In the document at [[m:Wikidata/Data_model#Statements]] the relation between the Statement and the ReferenceRecord is a zero-to-many. That means there can be none or many references given for a statement. If we should follow the proposal the relation would be changed to 1..* or simply +. The change in itself to enforce this in the software would not be difficult, but it could make it nearly impossible to construct statements. The reason is that you would not be able to create statements without adding the references at the same time. Because of this it would be difficult to have an absolute and software-supported rule for this, but as a general rule it could be wise. At least it would create a positive drive to source (mostly) everything. [[User:Jeblad|Jeblad]] ([[User talk:Jeblad|talk]]) 01:34, 7 December 2012 (UTC) 01:32, 7 December 2012 (UTC)