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Use this page to discuss design and content changes to the '''[[{{int:mainpage}}|main page]]'''.
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Wikia would rather we use '''[[Project:Community Portal|Community Portal]]''' or '''[[Forum:Index|Forums]]''' for talking about the wiki in general... but whatever.
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== Older Discussion ==
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As this wiki gets on in years, this page gets uncomfortably big with old conversations. They've been moved to sub-pages.
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* [[Talk:/v/'s Recommended Games Wiki/2009]]
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* [[Talk:/v/'s Recommended Games Wiki/2010]]
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* [[Talk:/v/'s Recommended Games Wiki/2011]]
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* [[Talk:/v/'s Recommended Games Wiki/2012]]
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__TOC__
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== Handheld versus mobile ==
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I was adding some platforms to the "history of game machines" list, when I realized: it's not right to list smartphone platforms like Android and iOS as "handheld", as the word implies a portable system fully dedicated to games. So I relisted them as "mobile".--[[User:LYRIC-Stormwatch|LYRIC-Stormwatch]] ([[User talk:LYRIC-Stormwatch|talk]]) 09:45, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
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== Style harmonization ==
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Is there an automated way to redo the tables? I want to make them all similar to the [[Dreamcast]] list: cover pic, title, genre, description. No screenshots or similar cruft (except for the PC page, where the year and store columns are useful). Redoing all that shit by hand would be a fuckton of work. -- [[User:LYRIC-Stormwatch|LYRIC-Stormwatch]] ([[User talk:LYRIC-Stormwatch|talk]]) 08:02, March 23, 2013 (UTC)
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== Vandalism problems ==
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Some faggot seems to be adding a ton of BLANK LINES everywhere, is there a way to get rid of this shit? --[[User:LYRIC-Stormwatch|LYRIC-Stormwatch]] ([[User talk:LYRIC-Stormwatch|talk]]) 09:17, March 23, 2013 (UTC)
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More vandalism: [[User:Fagslayer420]] and [[User:Urafaget23]] do nothing but shit on the pages of Ouya and Linux. Ban those fuckers plz kthx. --[[User:LYRIC-Stormwatch|LYRIC-Stormwatch]] ([[User talk:LYRIC-Stormwatch|talk]]) 01:36, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
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And now there's another asshole constantly vandalizing the Ouya page. -- [[User:LYRIC-Stormwatch|LYRIC-Stormwatch]] ([[User talk:LYRIC-Stormwatch|talk]]) 04:46, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
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:The 'another asshole' has been sorted out. -- [[User:Mozai|Mozai]] ([[User talk:Mozai|talk]])
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== Suggestion: split the PC section further ==
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I think it'd make sense to separate the [[PC]] section further, as the "older games" page is getting really long. I'd suggest:
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* MS-DOS games
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* early Windows games (pre-95)
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* 95 era (1995 to 2000)
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* XP era (2001 to 2006)
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* Longhorn era (2007 to 2011)
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* 8 era (2012 to now)
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I am a little unsure about the last one, though: a "modern Windows era", from 07 to now, would make sense, as no one is moving to Windows 8 anyway. But splitting that would help keep the pages reasonably short. What do you think? --[[User:LYRIC-Stormwatch|LYRIC-Stormwatch]] ([[User talk:LYRIC-Stormwatch|talk]]) 03:10, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
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:Well, I personally think it's a pretty good idea. 11 years is a pretty big bracket and it's pretty content-filled as well. If you want to do it, go right ahead. Otherwise, I'll do it myself tomorrow. I can vouch for you if nothing more. --[[User:Dejiko|Dejiko]] ([[User talk:Dejiko|talk]]) 07:46, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
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::Ideas for how to call the "Vista/7" era? Longhorn was Vista's codename, but people won't recognize it; I could call it Vista, but people hated that; and I could call it 7, but it didn't really start with it. Also, I think the troubleshooting section should get its own page.--[[User:LYRIC-Stormwatch|LYRIC-Stormwatch]] ([[User talk:LYRIC-Stormwatch|talk]]) 00:20, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
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::::I don't think it'd hurt if you split it up even more, making both a "Vista era" and a "7 era", so they'd be ~3 years each, seeing how some major progress has been made at a fast rate the last few years when it comes to game engines, not to mention fact that almost half the current list is '07-'08 (what would then be the "Vista era"), and the other half is '09-'11 (which would be "7 era"). --[[User:Zgd|Zgd]] ([[User talk:Zgd|talk]]) 12:25, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
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Done editing the main PC page. Does it look good? (In case anyone wants the image template, get it [https://mega.co.nz/#!qVhRSJ4Y!S2atTA1mjekAosQli5i-HhhtfDEsmgAMciOhJdjouCc here]). --[[User:LYRIC-Stormwatch|LYRIC-Stormwatch]] ([[User talk:LYRIC-Stormwatch|talk]]) 09:27, May 3, 2013 (UTC)
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::Looks ballin. Sorry I couldn't help myself, I had some family matters come up, and had to stay offline for a few days. (I know that sounds like a hamfisted excuse, but in all honesty, I really DID want to get on, but I just couldn't.) --[[User:Dejiko|Dejiko]] ([[User talk:Dejiko|talk]]) 16:21, May 3, 2013 (UTC)
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::::Looks great indeed, I'll take the liberty to upload the logos for the rest of them and adding to the pages. --[[User:Zgd|Zgd]] ([[User talk:Zgd|talk]]) 11:16, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
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:::: Late as fuck, but good job on that, Lyric. It's a whole lot better now.[[User:Jukse|Jukse]] ([[User talk:Jukse|talk]]) 11:26, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
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== PCs aren't tablets ==
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I think it's goofy that PC games are mixed in with tablets and mobile devices on the front page. All the lists for Windows, Apple computers, Linux, etc should be grouped together as PC games. Mac computer games and Linux games should be added to the PC page as well because the only thing linked on the PC page is Windows games.
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Also, all the Java mobile devices, Apple mobile devices, Android, etc should be in it's separate group with their own page as well. --[[User:Bobby1001|Bobby1001]] ([[User talk:Bobby1001|talk]]) 8:05, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
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:That's exactly what "PC" came to mean: DOS & Windows. It's not strictly correct, but that's how it's been understood for a long time now. What else can we do, rename it "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wintel Wintel]"? Anyway, that's what the PC page is for; Mac and Linux have their own pages and should not be mixed with the PC page. -- [[User:LYRIC-Stormwatch|LYRIC-Stormwatch]] ([[User talk:LYRIC-Stormwatch|talk]]) 07:15, July 7, 2013 (UTC)
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== Vandalism galore ==
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There's too much vandalism going on. Some unregistered assholes are going around doing nothing but removing others' recommendations without justification. There's even a dolt trying to kill the Ouya page altogether. I must suggest a radical solution: only registered users can be allowed to edit anything. -- [[User:LYRIC-Stormwatch|LYRIC-Stormwatch]] ([[User talk:LYRIC-Stormwatch|talk]]) 00:53, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
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:I guess that would be great to prevent pointless edits and all, but I can already hear the deranged anon outcries just thinking about it. [[User:Jukse|Jukse]] ([[User talk:Jukse|talk]]) 19:37, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
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:With all the back and forth on the PS4 page (and I mean at least daily someone will go LEL NO GAMES LOOK AT ME I'M SO FUNNY) that's more than worth it. We gotta get this stuff under control. [[User:Parabox|Parabox]] ([[User talk:Parabox|talk]]) 12:32, July 29, 2013 (UTC)
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:We could use more dedicated moderators. It's irritating that I have to undo each edit individually when someone could just use rollback. I've been watching over a few of the sections for quite awhile and it feels really inactive. [[User:Hypoxium|Hypoxium]] ([[User talk:Hypoxium|talk]]) 19:48, July 29, 2013 (UTC)
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::Wikia has been poor at notifying me for pages on my watchlist. --[[User:Mozai|Mozai]] ([[User talk:Mozai|talk]]) 18:49, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
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[[User:Gaboya]] is repeatedly vandalizing the Ouya page. Ban plz.--[[User:LYRIC-Stormwatch|LYRIC-Stormwatch]] ([[User talk:LYRIC-Stormwatch|talk]]) 20:55, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
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:And now the fucker is vandalizing the front page!--[[User:LYRIC-Stormwatch|LYRIC-Stormwatch]] ([[User talk:LYRIC-Stormwatch|talk]]) 05:11, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
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:Hey asshat, what don't you understand about /v/ DOESN'T LIKE THE OUYA. NOT A SINGLE PERSON ON THERE. If /v/ doesn't like the OUYA, then anyone with common sense would know that /v/ also doesn't recommend any of its games. '''Once again, it's not vandalism if /v/ doesn't actually recommend it.''' Kinda sad how this entire wiki has gone to shit by people like you. Get out you crying brony faggot. -Gaboya
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::You really don't get what this wiki is for, do you? See, when someone says: ''"Recommend me some good games for System XYZ plz kthx"'', the proper answer is: ''"These are some good games for System XYZ"''. Or the easy modo: send him here and he will find a list of good games for System XYZ. The wrong answer is: ''"No, System XYZ sux, have a list of games for System ABC instead!"''. Which is what you are trying to do. -- [[User:LYRIC-Stormwatch|LYRIC-Stormwatch]] ([[User talk:LYRIC-Stormwatch|talk]]) 06:40, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
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::Are you seriously that fucking delusional that you think everybody on /v/ shares the exact same opinion and that anybody thinking otherwise is from Reddit? That's so fucking stupid. If you can't be open-minded you shouldn't even be contributing here. [[User:Hypoxium|Hypoxium]] ([[User talk:Hypoxium|talk]]) 06:43, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
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::"If you can't be open-minded you shouldn't even be contributing here" - spoken like a true Redditor. top fucking lellers, no surprises that this wiki is dead and nobody ever links it or recommends it. oh and look at the front page "/v/'s biggest contributor is Anonymous," - except when the circlejerk doesn't approve then the only contributors are people who agree with the Reddit status quo. top fucking lel -``[[Special:Contributions/46.64.81.213|anonymous]]
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::Never gone to Reddit, don't give a fuck. The wiki looks like shit when nobody does anything to help, there are sections that haven't been updated in ages, and it's not because of Reddit. If you think a game or something is shit then bring it up on a discussion page so that other people from /v/ can agree on how garbage it is. That's how it should work here. [[User:Hypoxium|Hypoxium]] ([[User talk:Hypoxium|talk]]) 17:43, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
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::>top fucking lel
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::>anonymous
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::-- [[Special:Contributions/68.109.79.102|68.109.79.102]]
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::It's because of faggots like you that /v/ is such a cancer itself. Funny enough, people on /v/ DO link to this page. When some asks "Where can I find good games for this console?" there are people who direct them towards this site. Take your autism back to /b/ and shoot yourself. [[Special:Contributions/68.109.79.102|68.109.79.102]] 03:13, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
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== Windows 8 surface? ==
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Can we get a list for this monster? it's like android with both less and more games. -- [[Special:Contributions/82.41.250.186|82.41.250.186]]
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Maybe a new page but mostly a copy/paste, with slight updates, of pc xbox 360 and android as those seem to be the games the surface supports at random. Truth be told it's a fairly terrible machine but people seem to like it. Not sure if the windows phone is the same or simular in the game running field. I know oh so little about the games actually on the damn thing i was hoping someone with more knowlegde could slap one together. The whole wikia needs lots of these kind of pages fixed up anyway, consoles/platforms with little to no date other than an entry and a smigin of info.
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:Should that be a subsection of [[PC/Windows 8]], or a separate page? If you feel you're an expert, this is a wiki so you know what to do. Don't forget to trawl old /v/ threads, or poll /v/ directly for your data. --[[User:Mozai|Mozai]] ([[User talk:Mozai|talk]]) 13:04, October 16, 2013 (UTC)
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: Why do we need a page for something that has the same games as everywhere else? Due to the severe overlap (It's just MS porting it's stuff) the page should be like the [[Ouya]] page and only list games native to the system. Nothing to list = no page. --[[User:Kitsuneae|Kitsuneae]] ([[User talk:Kitsuneae|talk]]) 21:04, October 16, 2013 (UTC)
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Hmm, i guess you're right... Surface doesn't have any exclusive games i think (halo spartan assault might be one but that's it). Not sure if Surface even counts as a platform. maybe we could extend the android/windows 8 pc games pages to include windows phone/surface playability? oh wait, if we do that we may have to add 'other consoles' for all pages.. Maybe it's best to forget this idea then?
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:: Well, we could mention on the Windows 8 page that windows is extended to "every device that runs windows that isn't a dedicated gaming console including tablets and phones." That might work.--[[User:Kitsuneae|Kitsuneae]] ([[User talk:Kitsuneae|talk]]) 05:10, October 18, 2013 (UTC)
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That'd work, windows 8 is a mess isin't?
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::Well, a mess is what happens when you decide to have every single product you make running the same OS. Thanks Microsoft. As a side note, make sure you put replies at the very botom of the conversation. It makes things a lot easier to read. Also hit the button next to the "no" button to sign your posts. --[[User:Kitsuneae|Kitsuneae]] ([[User talk:Kitsuneae|talk]]) 00:19, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
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Surface is just a device, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_RT Windows RT] is the platform. And, to everyone's confusion, Surface Pro doesn't use that same platform, it runs regular Windows 8 instead. What the hell was Microsoft thinking? -- [[User:LYRIC-Stormwatch|LYRIC-Stormwatch]] ([[User talk:LYRIC-Stormwatch|talk]]) 22:13, October 23, 2013 (UTC)
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==Trolls...==
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It seems a troll has gotten loose and is now editing pages by deleting everything and putting stupid shit like "my dik" and such. Be on you toes.
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-Magic Mushroom
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:: Yes, we have had a couple of those lately. The easiest answer is to ignore any posts they make (if they make posts), fix what we can, and hope the admins put a "registered only" lock on the wiki so only registered users can edit/make things. This measure won't stop things 100%, but it prevents one guy from refreshing his IP, using TOR, or proxying to skirt bans or look like multiple people. In short, it makes life easier. --[[User:Kitsuneae|Kitsuneae]] ([[User talk:Kitsuneae|talk]]) 20:52, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
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=== Mass deletions ===
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This faggot: http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/46.45.7.117
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is going through dozens of pages and deleting everything.
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If you're reading this, fuck you asshole.
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:: [http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Don%27t_feed_the_Troll Don't feed the trolls]. --[[User:Kitsuneae|Kitsuneae]] ([[User talk:Kitsuneae|talk]]) 20:52, October 27, 2013 (UTC)