2016-03-13

metatron wrote:

jansman wrote:Nice gear there. Regarding the lock picks, we all know they are available to buy, but can we steer away from that subject please ? As already mentioned, carrying them can create legal problems, as it can be seen ( quite rightly imo) as 'going equipped'. Let's keep it legal. Thanks.

It's widely accepted as a prepping skill globally. Understanding how locks work, is like understanding how a car works, if not more important as you can live without a car, try living without locks. For example both locksmiths and mechanics, can and will rip you off, charging you for things that don't need to happen and using crappy parts.

Lockpicking as a skill will teach you how to remove a broken key out of your own locks and access your home, saving yourself hundreds of pounds, as locksmiths as a whole will try and use a key extractor, then drill or pull the lock out and charge you for a new cylinder and keys. Sure there are a few good locksmith around, but they are in the minority, its about getting the most amount of money from each job.

Other things you learn is how to repin a lock, which means you can reuse and repair your locks, which will save you a lot over your lifetime. This skill will also allow you to buy old locks without keys and repin it to suit a key you have, as well as using security pins, increasing its security.

Finally lockpicking will teach you how to buy locks. I see people talking about securing their homes and gardens, yet if you looked at their locks, you will likely see a own brand Wicks or B&Q, possibly even a Master Lock, knowing they are pieces of trash, that can be opened in under 2 seconds will allow you to better protect yourself, your family and your home, which are all major parts of prepping.

Lockpicking and lock sports are completely legal and a fun and useful hobby.

EMT wrote:
I tried picking for a bit and was good fun and yeah like you used a basic set, really easy once you have a cutaway lock.

Any experience with pick guns or bump keys?

Picking guns work, but they're a waste of money as if you can use a picking gun to open a lock, you can use a rake quicker and cheaper. I've use bump keys but again I don't see the point in most situations, the only thing's that come in useful besides a basic set of picks is a set of shims for some padlocks, disk detainer picks and dimple picks/rakes.

I'm going to have to agree here to a point..

As an avid cyclist i was made aware via cycling forums as to the insecure insurance approved kryptonite new York bike locks that could be opened using a humble bic Biro.

So got in touch with the seller and they looped me to Kryptonite who replaced my lock FOC

I use bump keys and picks at work

Though last week drifting 2 hinge pins was a faster moe

As for most UK homes youtube euro cylinder lock snapping its been publicised on the media but its not well known but a common method used by thieves

Local plumber has had a run of bad luck.. All the best locks... They used a flag stone from his patio to shatter his sliding patio door glass to swipe his TV / iPad......

Then his caravan went caught on his CCTV they used oxygen and acetylene to chop the hitch locks and wheel clamps off

Many peoples edc of a multitool can be seen as enough for going equipped if you upset a police officer..

My car currently has a tool bag with a large ballpein hammer several crow bars screwdrivers punches and spanners / grips big braker bar sockets et all. I use them at work but it lives in my boot 24/7 but all of these could be seen as going equipped if plod wanted to

Taken in context a landlord / buildings and facility maintenance manager / builder would get away with the stuff above but a shelf stacker at Tesco wouldn't have a leg to limp on if caught with any of the above items on their person at any time...

Bit like a fixed blade knife on a camp site which no one would bat an eye at but a campsite is seen as a public place...

Bit like a toddlers cutlery set I saw today with a 18+ sticker on it

Statistics: Posted by Yorkshire Andy — Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:06 pm

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