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Trump's magnficent nominees - 7 Updates

Butthurt - 5 Updates

OT: What is the best qualification of DeVos... - 3 Updates

TDS - 1 Update

68 leftist haters and counting - 3 Updates

Climate Change!!!! A Crock of Shit! - 4 Updates

OT: Surprised to learn what his job was... - 2 Updates

Trump's magnficent nominees

"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com>: Jan 19 12:22PM -0800

On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 1:53:45 PM UTC-5, Dene wrote:

> So you are saying that countless investment bankers ran a pyramid scheme like Madoff?

> C'mon John...most investors are honest people.

> -Greg

No, I'm not saying anything of the sort. I'm saying they crashed
the financial system and ruined people's lives through greed
and recklessness.

Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Jan 19 01:32PM -0800

On 2017-01-19 9:58 AM, Dene wrote:
>> competence, not how much money they had made.

> Competent people in the business world usually make a lot of money. All else either teach or become bureaucrats.

> -Greg

Which is why Trump won't release his actual taxes or his business
interests...

Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Jan 19 01:38PM -0800

> BWAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

> You keep shooting yourself in thee foot, Shit Stain.

> Try to work yourself out of that swoon.

Obama's education secretaries:

'John B. King Jr. (born 1975) is the Secretary of Education at the U.S.
Department of Education.[1] Immediately before he assumed leadership of
the Department, he served as its Acting Deputy Secretary,[2][3] and from
2011 to 2014 he was the New York State Education Commissioner.

...

After receiving a Bachelor of Arts in Government from Harvard,[9] King
taught social studies and received his master's from Teachers College,
Columbia University. He taught for three years, including two years at a
Boston charter school. King was among the founders of Roxbury
Preparatory Charter School, where he served as co-director for five
years and developed its curriculum and rules, such as no talking in the
hallways between classes. Under King's leadership, Roxbury Prep's
students attained the highest state exam scores of any urban middle
school in Massachusetts'

So a career in education since about 1999...

'In 1992, childhood friend and investment banker John W. Rogers, Jr.,
appointed [Arne] Duncan director of the Ariel Education Initiative, a
program mentoring children at one of the city's worst-performing
elementary schools and then assisting them as they proceeded further in
the education system.[7] After the school closed in 1996, Duncan and
Rogers were instrumental in re-opening it as a charter school, Ariel
Community Academy.[8] In 1999, Duncan was appointed Deputy Chief of
Staff for former Chicago Public Schools CEO Paul Vallas.[9]

...

CEO of Chicago Public Schools[edit]
Mayor Richard M. Daley appointed Duncan to serve as Chief Executive
Officer of the Chicago Public Schools on June 26, 2001'

And a career in education since 1992.

What's Betsy Devos's qualification for the job?

Oh, right! She donated a lot of money!

Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Jan 19 01:39PM -0800

On 2017-01-19 10:53 AM, Dene wrote:
>> crisis?

> So you are saying that countless investment bankers ran a pyramid scheme like Madoff?

> C'mon John...most investors are honest people.

"investors"? Perhaps.

Investment bankers? No. You cannot say that with any degree of certainty.

Moderate <nospam@nomail.com>: Jan 19 05:20PM -0600

> investment bankers who made millions buying and selling
> mortgage-backed securities and caused the financial
> crisis?

http://www.usapoliticstoday.com/wikileaks-dropped-obamas-cabinet/
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Carbon <nobrac@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>: Jan 19 08:09PM -0500

On 01/19/2017 11:28 AM, Dene wrote:
>> Trump would win and he did. Some folks can't handle grown ups.

> Obamacare is not a disaster. It has done more good than harm. It just
> needs to be overhauled

It's not going to get overhauled. It's going to get repealed and people
are going to die because of it.

Carbon <nobrac@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>: Jan 19 08:11PM -0500

On 01/19/2017 12:58 PM, Dene wrote:

>> Maybe she would have. But she would have based her choices on
>> competence, not how much money they had made.

> Competent people in the business world usually make a lot of money.

Of course, those who inherited a mountain of money don't have to be
competent.

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Butthurt

"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com>: Jan 19 12:23PM -0800

On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 1:42:45 PM UTC-5, Dene wrote:

> I have health insurance with a maximum out of pocket of $6500. $6500 will not drive me to bankruptcy.

> BTW....the maximum out of pocket by law is $7150. Hardly a cause for a legitimate bankruptcy.

> -Greg

It is for some people.

BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net>: Jan 19 03:26PM -0600

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:15:35 -0800 (PST), Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>
wrote:

>about him and if you are looking for childishness he's your man.

>----------

>Lewis is an excuse.
He absolutely is not. You keep saying that he isn't the reason for the
boycott. You're dead wrong. Do some reading on the Internet it's
explained over and over there. The election is secondary in this
instance. Trump is still OTT on his many tweets saying that Lewis is

>These partisan assholes have no concept of patriotism.

How in hell can you make a statement like that? You have no idea
what their concept of patriotism, or anything else is. Trying to read
one person mind is not very smart, of a large group is ridiculous.

>Only an agenda that most of America does not want.

>-Greg
You keep missing the point, and the fact that most of America does not
want Trump.

recscuba_google@huntzinger.com: Jan 19 01:42PM -0800

On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 1:42:45 PM UTC-5, Dene wrote:
> > > and give a chance.

> > And when asked to commit to how long said "chance" is to be, you've bailed.

> 100 days. You know...the number after 99.

So now noted. Congratulations on finally committing.

> > Just try not to get literally sick: you'll be bankrupt before you know it.

> I have health insurance with a maximum out of pocket of $6500.
> $6500 will not drive me to bankruptcy.

I wasn't talking about the annual out-of-pocket limit:
instead, I was referring to the cost of the actual health
insurance policy, which as per the latest CBO estimates is
expected to now grow by 20-25% per year from ACA's repeal.

The ramifications of this are that if you don't get a $5K
raise (increase in total benefits) the first year of rate
change after ACA repeal, you're falling behind. And because
of compounding, this number goes up every year thereafter:
year 2 requires no less than a $6K/year raise to prevent
falling even further behind; the "tread water" for year 3
is +$7.2K and for year 4 (2020 election year) its +$8.6K

Oh, and these are assuming the CBO's lower estimate; the
upper ones are: +$6K, +$7.5K, +$9.4K, +11.7K

Because after four years, the current[1] cost for a generic
family of four will increase from $24K/year to $48K/year.

[1] - as per Forbes, via the 2015 Milliman Medical Index:

<http://www.forbes.com/sites/danmunro/2015/05/19/annual-healthcare-cost-for-family-of-four-now-at-24671/#7fb6029a4dfb>

> BTW....the maximum out of pocket by law is $7150. Hardly
> a cause for a legitimate bankruptcy.

True, under ACA, but that was in no small part because the
ACA prohibited "lifetime limits".

But with ACA's repeal, the "lifetime limit" prohibition
is gone too, so they'll come back into effect.

And as you know, once you hit your LL, the healthcare policy
stops paying and the max out-of-pocket no longer applies.

-hh

MNMikeW <mnmiikkew@aol.com>: Jan 19 03:47PM -0600

BobbyK wrote:

> How in hell can you make a statement like that? You have no idea
> what their concept of patriotism, or anything else is. Trying to read
> one person mind is not very smart, of a large group is ridiculous.

Yes. Like saying you know how midwest voters think.

Carbon <nobrac@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>: Jan 19 08:03PM -0500

On 01/19/2017 01:31 PM, MNMikeW wrote:

>> You're a cheerleader and you're ignoring the obvious gaping holes in
>> his suitability for the job.

> Says the biggest leftist cheerleader here.

Again with the relativity. Be honest for once: Do you think Trump is
qualified to be President?

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OT: What is the best qualification of DeVos...

Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Jan 19 03:29PM -0800

...for the job of Secretary of Education?

Wow me.

Moderate <nospam@nomail.com>: Jan 19 05:52PM -0600

> ...for the job of Secretary of Education?

> Wow me.

She knows it is bloated and counter productive.
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Carbon <nobrac@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>: Jan 19 07:53PM -0500

On 01/19/2017 06:29 PM, Alan Baker wrote:

> ...for the job of Secretary of Education?

> Wow me.

She has a lot of money. Otherwise she is laughably unqualified.

https://goo.gl/4squwq

"We write today as professors of education, to urge you to join us in
voicing opposition to the nomination of Betsy DeVos to U.S. secretary of
education.

DeVos is unqualified. Understanding the daily struggles within our schools
and how to assuage them requires careful study of education and experience
in schools. DeVos has no relevant credentials in education, no formal
training or experience in teaching, and no advanced knowledge of
educational research.

DeVos puts forward an agenda that jeopardizes the future of democratically
run public education. She supports the privatization of schooling through
expanding for-profit charter schools and vouchers to private schools. Her
efforts in Michigan have led 80 percent of charter schools to be
for-profit. DeVos views schools as a place to make money and children as a
source of profit.

DeVos supports policies that have consistently failed. The particular
forms of school choice that she advocates have consistently failed
children, including voucher students who have been outperformed by
traditional public school students. In addition to worrisome low academic
performance, many of the sorts of charter schools she has backed have
engaged in discriminatory practices. These charter schools cause de facto
segregation, cherry-pick top students, and push out those who struggle or
have costly attributes such as disabilities or being English language
learners."

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TDS

Moderate <nospam@nomail.com>: Jan 19 06:17PM -0600

BDS was bad, TDS is worse.

You can't swing a dead cat on a ten foot rope without hitting a
liberal afflicted with TDS.
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68 leftist haters and counting

recscuba_google@huntzinger.com: Jan 19 01:46PM -0800

On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 1:49:27 PM UTC-5, Dene wrote:

> > <http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/01/republicans-flee-washington-before-inauguration.html>

> > -hh

> Not one link cites a Republican congressman...

Your statement was:

"You are aware that Republicans skipped Obama's inaugurations, correct?"

I don't see the additional qualifier of 'congressman' in there, do you?

So you trying to add it now is a goalpost move.

-hh

Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: Jan 19 02:37PM -0800

On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 1:49:27 PM UTC-5, Dene wrote:

> > <http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/01/republicans-flee-washington-before-inauguration.html>

> > -hh

> Not one link cites a Republican congressman...

Your statement was:

"You are aware that Republicans skipped Obama's inaugurations, correct?"

Re-read. I never made that statement.

I don't see the additional qualifier of 'congressman' in there, do you?

So you trying to add it now is a goalpost move.

That's exactly what you were trying to do. Own it.

Moderate <nospam@nomail.com>: Jan 19 05:10PM -0600

> I don't see the additional qualifier of 'congressman' in there, do you?

> So you trying to add it now is a goalpost move.

> That's exactly what you were trying to do. Own it.

He Googles stuff. He doesn't read it before he posts. His
track
record is clear on that. His makes a claim and then posts
unrelated cites.
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Climate Change!!!! A Crock of Shit!

Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Jan 19 01:48PM -0800

>> biased high vs more accurate modern autonomous bouys' data.

>> -hh

> Still bloviating?

If that means providing facts where you provide screeds from the
unqualified and biased...

...then yes!

michaelunowho@gmail.com: Jan 19 01:53PM -0800

> http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/first-nasa-now-noaa-caught-fudging-climate-change-data

> http://principia-scientific.org/nasa-exposed-in-massive-new-climate-data-fraud/

> https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/06/23/noaanasa-dramatically-altered-us-temperatures-after-the-year-2000/

OK. Two have now checked in.

michaelunowho@gmail.com: Jan 19 01:58PM -0800

On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 4:48:04 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:

> If that means providing facts where you provide screeds from the
> unqualified and biased...

> ...then yes!

Sorry, I couldn't find anything on boingboing.net. So Sorry

And today; you are a Climatologist. In addition to all your other non-talents, Shit Stain
.

When the day is long and the night, the night is yours alone,
When you're sure you've had enough of this life, well hang on.
Don't let yourself go, everybody cries and everybody hurts sometimes.
Sometimes everything is wrong. Now it's time to sing along.
When your day is night alone, (hold on, hold on)
If you feel like letting go, (hold on)
When you think you've had too much of this life, well hang on.
Everybody hurts. Take comfort in your friends.
Everybody hurts. Don't throw your hand. Oh, no. Don't throw your hand.
If you feel like you're alone, no, no, no, you are not alone
If you're on your own in this life, the days and nights are long,
When you think you've had too much of this life to hang on.
Well, everybody hurts sometimes,
Everybody cries. And everybody hurts sometimes.
And everybody hurts sometimes. So, hold on, hold on.
Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on.

Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: Jan 19 02:10PM -0800

>> ...then yes!

> Sorry, I couldn't find anything on boingboing.net. So Sorry

> And today; you are a Climatologist. In addition to all your other non-talents, Shit Stain

You're the one claiming you know which sites are authoritative on
climate change, Michael... ...not me.

:-)

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OT: Surprised to learn what his job was...

Moderate <nospam@nomail.com>: Jan 19 03:08PM -0600

> anything they don't like or agree with. In the case of Perry,
> it is a fact that he didn't know the Energy Dept. manages the
> nuclear weapons complex. I'm guessing you didn't either.

Wrong. The report the turd cited was false. Fake.
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Moderate <nospam@nomail.com>: Jan 19 03:21PM -0600

> anything they don't like or agree with. In the case of Perry,
> it is a fact that he didn't know the Energy Dept. manages the
> nuclear weapons complex. I'm guessing you didn't either.

The left coined the phrase 'fake news' and they have been caught
with fake news stories ever since.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/19/journalists-apologize-for-spread
ing-bogus-new-york-times-story-about-rick-perry/?utm_campaign=atda
ilycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social
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