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Complete and utter lack of class - 2 Updates
Obama commutes sentence for BRADLEY manning.... - 1 Update
trump's list of entertainers for his big party..... - 5 Updates
Unleash ... wait for it--- - 6 Updates
30% of americans don't believe the planet is warming - 7 Updates
A Whale of A Tale - 1 Update
Mason Weaver talks about John Lewis - 1 Update
Fake News for fun and profit, GOP style - 2 Updates
Complete and utter lack of class
Irish Ranger <ace317@att.net>: Jan 19 05:23PM -0800
On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 11:31:40 PM UTC-5, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
> hearing, but Warren simply waved her off and walked away.
> Democrats are beclowning themselves daily. They act as if
> they don't want to deserve respect.
The more liberal lunatics like Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and Nancy Pelosi pull the party to the far left, the more working class Democrats will move to the center and into the Trump/Republican Party. It is exactly what happened to the Democrats in the 2016 election, but (thankfully) they are too dumb to see it.
Irish Mike
Here's a beautiful little tune to help Dems cope with
the next eight years of a Republican administration.
https://youtu.be/aVlHZh5dvbA
Eric Ramon <ramon.eric@gmail.com>: Jan 19 05:39PM -0800
On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 5:23:31 PM UTC-8, Irish Ranger wrote:
> Here's a beautiful little tune to help Dems cope with
> the next eight years of a Republican administration.
> https://youtu.be/aVlHZh5dvbA
incorrect. The more the Democratic Party acts like Bernie (forget Pelosi, she's hopeless) the more successful it'll be with independents and win elections. The more the Democratic Party caters to rich donors the more elections it'll lose.
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Obama commutes sentence for BRADLEY manning....
Irish Ranger <ace317@att.net>: Jan 19 05:29PM -0800
> You'll refer to them as they choose to be referred to, unless you want to end their existence.
> Thank you.
> Mike
Not sure I'm following this. So Mike, you're saying you used to be Michelle?
Irish Mike
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trump's list of entertainers for his big party.....
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: Jan 19 04:48PM -0800
is just pathetic....
wtf?
unclejr <watsona64@gmail.com>: Jan 19 05:09PM -0800
On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 6:48:49 PM UTC-6, michael anderson wrote:
> is just pathetic....
> wtf?
No Tony Bennett?
BOYCOTT!
"Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger" <damonhynes@gmail.com>: Jan 19 05:14PM -0800
On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 6:48:49 PM UTC-6, michael anderson wrote:
> is just pathetic....
> wtf?
Who would you have picked?
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: Jan 19 05:16PM -0800
On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 7:14:28 PM UTC-6, Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger wrote:
> > is just pathetic....
> > wtf?
> Who would you have picked?
I probably would have googled "most popular bands/artists of the last x number of years"
and tried to find a couple people in the...I dunno....top 50?
"Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger" <damonhynes@gmail.com>: Jan 19 05:19PM -0800
On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 7:16:10 PM UTC-6, michael anderson wrote:
> > Who would you have picked?
> I probably would have googled "most popular bands/artists of the last x number of years"
> and tried to find a couple people in the...I dunno....top 50?
Geffen and Wenner would have had them blackballed. That said, I wonder what happened to Nugent and Kid Rock and Hank Jr.
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Unleash ... wait for it---
darkstar7646@gmail.com: Jan 19 03:50PM -0800
On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 5:28:07 AM UTC-8, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
> I believe in a 2-party system - but not Republican and Socialist.
You don't get that choice.
> The approval rate for Obama leaving is up to about 60%.
And the approval rate for Trump is, what, 30%? The same 30% of you clucker jackasses who would vote for Hitler?
Mike
"Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger" <damonhynes@gmail.com>: Jan 19 03:58PM -0800
On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 9:45:54 PM UTC-6, Michael Press wrote:
> <http://tinyurl.com/jnhux2s>
> --
> Michael Press
#TannedRestedReady
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: Jan 19 04:21PM -0800
> Deliberate irony, damon?
> The rights been calling the entirety of the left deplorable welfare case government leeches forever. In spite of the fact that there are almost certainly millions of liberals who make more money than the folks on the right that push this bs (in fact, there's a pretty strong corrolation between wealthy areas and progressive areas
actually(outside of a few small bubbles...entertainment and parts of nocal) not really.
You can't look at states as a whole....you're mixing up populations and affiliations. To use my state as an example. Is Alabama poor in general? Sure. Is it republican in general? sure. But the most affluent parts of it are very republican. And the poorest parts of it(where you can buy a house for 20k) are 98% dem voters. And you see this trend again and again....
Same for a lot of states Clinton won by 25 pts. In the wealthiest pockets of some of them, you actually trend more conservative(maybe clinton only won those by 10 instead of 30 for example) and then in the rougher parts you see it trending even more liberal.
Race plays a big role as well....especially in the south and texas and parts of the west coast. Minorities obviously vote heavily dem and are poorer in general. So that plays a large role in the association between lower incomes and dem voters....
And yeah you are right in that Trump changes this game a little. A lot of middle class to upper middle class professional whites who are romney republicans and make between 250 and 550k cant stand the guy....and higher numbers of those are identifying as independent or even democrat now because of Trump.
"Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger" <damonhynes@gmail.com>: Jan 19 04:30PM -0800
> More and more I think I'd we can't become diligent about the 10th amendment, we should just break this union up. It's clear that there is little common ground to be had.
> Besides, I want to see just how long texas is willing to prop up the rest of y'all before they go rogue as well.
> Cheers.
I suppose you're trying to make a point here, but you're going around your elbow to scratch your nose.
dotslashderek@gmail.com: Jan 19 04:46PM -0800
On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 6:30:29 PM UTC-6, Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger wrote:
> > Besides, I want to see just how long texas is willing to prop up the rest of y'all before they go rogue as well.
> > Cheers.
> I suppose you're trying to make a point here, but you're going around your elbow to scratch your nose.
I suppose you're trying to make a point here, but I have no idea what it is.
My point was quite simple. Y'all have been calling progressives "deplorables" for decades - all of them. Romney says every one of us is deplorable and you eat it up.
Hillary suggests some subset of the right is deplorable (and, boy, are they ever) and suddenly panties are twisted.
It's the overtness of the hypocrisy that cracks me up.
Is that hard to suss?
Cheers.
"Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger" <damonhynes@gmail.com>: Jan 19 05:13PM -0800
> It's the overtness of the hypocrisy that cracks me up.
> Is that hard to suss?
> Cheers.
Hypocrisy? Remove that coprolite from your pocket, guv'nor. Romney didn't call the welfare class deplorable. It was the wistful plaint of a man who was going to get his electoral ass kicked by someone vastly unqualified to lead the United States, and a statement of fact, but not perjorative.
I've called proggies lots of things and will continue to do so, but more as a definition rather than a pejorative. I've never asked a proggie when he stopped beating his wife until he actually beat his wife, for example.
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30% of americans don't believe the planet is warming
"Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger" <damonhynes@gmail.com>: Jan 19 03:39PM -0800
On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 5:22:41 PM UTC-6, Futbol Phan wrote:
> 40% do not believe in evolution
> 51% don't believe in the Big Bang theory
> 77% believe in angels
Correlation/causation and all that.
"Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger" <damonhynes@gmail.com>: Jan 19 03:47PM -0800
On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 11:34:12 AM UTC-6, The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior wrote:
> Given data, I think we're safer saying that global warming has caused human civilization to a greater extent than human civilization has caused global warming.
Nice.
"Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger" <damonhynes@gmail.com>: Jan 19 03:48PM -0800
On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 1:14:47 PM UTC-6, The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior wrote:
> Sure we can- and in a way it strikes to the heart of the matter - terms and definitions. "Warming" caused by "what" since "when"?
> AKA, fun with survey questions.
Nailing jello for fun and profit!
"Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger" <damonhynes@gmail.com>: Jan 19 03:56PM -0800
> But, again - no point in even talking about that stuff if we're still in a place where 30% of our adult population simply doesn't believe the planet is currently warming up. That's the point I'm trying to make.
> Cheers.
It's warming up. Human activity had a hand in it.
Question: So what?
Both lefties and righties think they can be a better God than the current one--and occasionally they get slapped down, and not by the other side. Men talk--nature acts.
However, God's creatures have a habit of adapting, and even if they can't, so what? Homo sapiens is at the apex of evolution--currently, but who's to say that we will stay that way?
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: Jan 19 04:11PM -0800
On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 3:36:34 PM UTC-6, JGibson wrote:
> On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 4:33:34 PM UTC-5, michael anderson wrote:
> > Well I don't believe in human evolution or global warming....so count me in those groups!
> If you don't believe in evolution, get out of the medical field!
im assuming this is sarcasm, but nothing I do(or pretty much anyone in health care) has anything to do with whether man originated from god/adam and eve or monkeys....and what one believes about that doesn't impact the care provided.
dotslashderek@gmail.com: Jan 19 04:36PM -0800
On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 4:13:59 PM UTC-6, The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior wrote:
> > I'd be interested in knowing what it would take to ease your skepticism?
> That's an excellent question and one I've asked myself at times - two primary things - 1) seeing something "we haven't seen before" and 2) evidence of other planets cooling while we warm
> And to flip it back, what evidence would you like to see to consider that AGW has been very overblown?
I don't have much of an opinion. I think an accurate description of the scientific community at this point in time would be that there's consensus that we're warming and that humans are one of the inputs driving warming.
But I don't think there's that much consensus around extrapolations (how big a problem it might be) or how much of a factor we are, compared to other inputs.
It's like everything else in life. I've never (and likely never will) studied "the fossil record", or tracked moth populations over time. But I still think evolution is the closest fit to the existing data.
I've never run experiments that suggest Einstein's interpretation is better than Newton's. But I take it on faith that the scientists that have aren't lying to me about the results.
So I guess the honest answer to your question is - scientific consensus. I'm using that word over and over to be a d-bag. ;)
And a lot of that is just faith I have in a couple things - the scientific method, human skepticism - and how that plays into constantly questioning even base principles - just our drive to understand the universe and how it works.
If you're asking what form I think that sort of evidence might take - some unknown feedback loop would be one. Maybe rising ocean temps result in greater cloud cover and drive cooling.
> > It doesn't feel like it's even possible for scientists to gather evidence that would address most of what you're talking about - we're definitely not going to suddenly have recorded observations going back millions of years, for instance.
> True - and I'm not looking for a day by day record - otoh, ignoring what we DO know seems....odd
I don't think the vast majority of the scientists who study the climate are doing that.
> > I'm actually a lot less interested in this topic than you might expect. To me, the existing evidence suggests we're actively warming the planet - but I think we'll engineer our way out of super severe consequences, and adapt to the ones that aren't catastrophic.
> TBH, the engineering frightens me far worse that what negative (and positive) effects humans might have had.
Hah. I suspect that sort of "large scale" engineering is inevitable, although we likely won't live to see it.
Read an interesting story a while back - basis was around warming causing methane release in the arctic.
Cool point was, we turned it into value - built biomechanical mats to capture released methane, solved "methane cracking":
http://www.chemicalprocessing.com/articles/2015/researchers-crack-methane-cracking/
Used the carbon for super materials like graphene:
http://www.computerworld.com/article/3155102/emerging-technology/mit-creates-3d-printed-graphene-thats-lighter-than-air-10x-stronger-than-steel.html
Used the hydrogen for fuel.
(Hope I'm getting those details right).
Anyhow, that's where I'm at - don't sweat the small stuff - there are a lot of clever folks out there, and I'm sure there's some Chinese proverb that means "disaster is opportunity".
(I also think there's a chance we'll use massive releases of greenhouse gases to warm Mars - unless we just go straight to bombarding the thing with Oort materials).
You could say I'm bullish on the human race. Manifest destiny and all that.
Cheers.
dotslashderek@gmail.com: Jan 19 04:41PM -0800
On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 5:56:26 PM UTC-6, Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger wrote:
> Question: So what?
> Both lefties and righties think they can be a better God than the current one--and occasionally they get slapped down, and not by the other side. Men talk--nature acts.
> However, God's creatures have a habit of adapting, and even if they can't, so what? Homo sapiens is at the apex of evolution--currently, but who's to say that we will stay that way?
That's almost exactly how I feel, except I suspect what'll replace us at the apex will be something we design - AI, post-humans, who knows.
Cheers.
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A Whale of A Tale
YosemiteSam <YosemiteSam@byteme.com>: Jan 19 04:18PM -0800
awesome !
http://www.simplysally.com/ME/Projectionholographique.mp4
~YS~
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Mason Weaver talks about John Lewis
YosemiteSam <YosemiteSam@byteme.com>: Jan 19 03:57PM -0800
> > Everybody you have heard of there was a time you never heard him.
> > It must be easy being a Democratic Party member.
> I listened. I cut him off as soon as he started yapping about "Democrats", "George Wallace", and "Bull Connor". There's a reason why most black people vote for Democrats these days, and it ain't because we're "living it up" on gubmint cheese and welfare.
"There is a certain class of race problem-solvers who don't want the patient to get well." ~ Booker T. Washington
"These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don't move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there'll be no way of stopping them, we'll lose the filibuster and there'll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It'll be Reconstruction all over again." Lyndon Baines Johnson
The birth of the Great Society, 200 years of votes and free cheese for life.
~YS~
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Fake News for fun and profit, GOP style
"Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger" <damonhynes@gmail.com>: Jan 19 03:36PM -0800
On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 4:36:01 PM UTC-6, Futbol Phan wrote:
> > https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/18/us/fake-news-hillary-clinton-cameron-harris.html
> But being a lying POS does have consequences:
> http://www.wcnc.com/news/politics/national-politics/davidson-graduate-fired-amid-fake-news-confession/388330915
Good. But, if he were a lib, he'd have a show on MSNBC already.
dotslashderek@gmail.com: Jan 19 03:38PM -0800
Trumps giving him a spot in his cabinet.
Cheers.
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