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OT: taking donations - 4 Updates
Democracy lost - 2 Updates
Adriano Panatta on Djokovic - 2 Updates
Bernie warns Trump - 2 Updates
What an amazing day - 2 Updates
All the Croatian miss contestants - 1 Update
OT: w/out working class... - 5 Updates
Talk show radio hosts, Glenn Beck and Fox News - 2 Updates
Misogynist Americans couldn't stand the thought of a woman in charge - 1 Update
OT: well, here we are. - 1 Update
OT: Bill Black on the Election - 1 Update
OT: new cabinet position - 2 Updates
OT: taking donations
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Nov 10 09:37PM -0500
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 18:09:55 -0800 (PST), PeteWasLucky
>I understand Bob can be excited because he got a president he likes, but Whisper and others that are not even living here, is stupid.
more accurately, i didn't get a president i didn't like.
bob
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Nov 11 03:35AM +0100
> I understand Bob can be excited because he got a president he likes, but Whisper and others that are not even living here, is stupid.
No that's not strange. The really question is why someone living
in Finland opposes global warming?
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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Nov 10 10:38PM -0500
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Because he knows what global warming means and the impact it will
have not only on Finland but globally, not like you jumping to
argue everything even when you don't have a clue
about.
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Whisper <beaver999@ozemail>: Nov 11 02:42PM +1100
On 11/11/2016 1:09 PM, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> I understand Bob can be excited because he got a president he likes, but Whisper and others that are not even living here, is stupid.
I like to see the little guys get a win now & again, especially when the
full resources of the elite/media are trying to influence the result.
A good example of the bias in media reporting is the current protests
against Trump. Imagine if Trump lost & his supporters were protesting in
the street - how would the media describe them?
: )
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Democracy lost
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Nov 11 02:23AM +0100
> Putin is almighty and immortal, mythical creature that has resided on
> our planet for hundreds, if not thousands of years...
> https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/putin.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1
Well said!
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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Nov 11 03:55AM +0100
> as i know, take a week off. go take a hike in the urals, a stroll down
> the volga, get some fresh air.
> bob
:)
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Adriano Panatta on Djokovic
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Nov 10 06:44PM -0800
On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 9:04:36 PM UTC-5, PeteWasLucky wrote:
> Striptease high intelligence could not make sense of the link :)
No, he's simply a liar.
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Nov 11 03:53AM +0100
> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 9:04:36 PM UTC-5, PeteWasLucky wrote:
>> Striptease high intelligence could not make sense of the link :)
> No, he's simply a liar.
I did not lie. It was a free translation.
I've red it in my language and posted to stirr a bit because I am
annoyed with that guru and liked what Panatta said.
I didn't search the english version, didn't quote etc.
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Bernie warns Trump
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Nov 10 06:56PM -0800
On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 8:13:56 PM UTC-5, soccerfan777 wrote:
> He also is saying he is most likely going to run in 2020.
> http://fortune.com/2016/11/10/bernie-sanders-2020-run/
> Go Bernie!
Run in 2020? He'll be too old to run in 2020.
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Nov 11 03:34AM +0100
> He will be almost 80 after four years.
By that time 80s will be the new 70s.
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What an amazing day
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Nov 10 09:31PM -0500
>>> and bob thinks he's a leftist.
>> Obama already kills innocent people. Randomly.
>No he does not...
actually he does.
>families of terrorists should be killed for revenge, that would make
>them think twice. He actually said that and there's no room for
>interpretation, he's talking about deliberate killing of civilians.
bob
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Nov 11 03:31AM +0100
>> But yeah that's what Americans ask themselves when they see Raja.
>> Why he come here instead of fighting in his country.
> I sense some trolling...
Where exactly?
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All the Croatian miss contestants
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Nov 11 03:30AM +0100
>> told he was nice to them, giving them compliments before
>> competition which all say boost their confidence.
> Well you know how Slavic women are - they love to get grabbed by their pussies.
If that's a stereotype it's a good one.
Certainly better than Frau Farbissina stereotype.
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OT: w/out working class...
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Nov 10 06:25PM -0800
On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 5:08:20 AM UTC-5,
> Yes, but in a civilized society there has to be a baseline where you can
> have a reasonable life just by being average. The rich getting richer
> doesn't hurt as much if you can still have a good lifestyle.
But as long as that baseline is in place what else can the government or corporations do? If the government raises minimum wage, if Trump creates more manufacturing jobs in the US, if corporation owners look after their valued skilled workers and pay them well with benefits, what else can be done, where do you draw the line and will that ever be enough for many disenfranchised? It's up to governments and corporate owners to try and reverse income inequality up to a point. Beyond that point people have to take responsibility for their own lives/situations.
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: Nov 10 06:28PM -0800
On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 6:15:05 PM UTC-8, Court_1 wrote:
> Except that isn't what I feel or isn't what I'm saying at all. I'm saying how far does the responsibility go for government to intercede and try and close the gap on income disparity? If Trump can create the jobs in the US again and bring some semblance of manufacturing back to the US again (something which won't be easy), isn't that enough? Where do we draw the line? As long as corporations pay their workers what is regulated by law or go above and beyond that and pay their workers more depending on whether they are skilled or unskilled and how important these workers are to them in their everyday business production, what else do you propose the government and corporation owners do?
> > And when did Sanders ever propose equal wages for everyone and redistribution of wealth?
> You must be kidding? Sanders'entire campaign was about the redistribution of wealth!
It was about making some big changes, but by no means seizing fortunes from the wealthy to create a classless society.
> > Or is that perhaps some long-term hidden agenda that all "Socialists" have deep down even when advocating things like the health care system Canada ALREADY HAS?
> Let me tell you something about the wonderful Canadian health care system. It has its drawbacks. If you go to a doctor's office you often have to wait hours to get into see the doctor because they are so backed up and need to see a certain number of patients a day to make ends meet and I'm talking about a GP. Let's not even talk about a specialist. Also, if you are suffering from something that doesn't appear to be life-threatening and need something like an MRI to try and determine what the problem is, you have to wait at least 4 months to get the MRI and often you have to wait 6 months or more. I've gone to the US a few times to get MRIs done right away because I didn't want to wait six months. If you have the money, many Canadians go to the US for MRIs, scans, etc. The healthcare system in Canada has its advantages but it is far from perfect.
I never thought it was perfect, and I've heard other stories such as those you're telling here. But still--I would much prefer an imperfect healthcare system than none at all. In the USA, there are people having no choice but to sink their entire life savings into medical treatment. IMO that's insane in a country like this.
Anyway, a well-written post---even if I still don't agree with you at all. :)
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: Nov 10 06:31PM -0800
On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 5:30:42 AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote:
> Don't bother yourself with the 'pussy grabbing' stuff
Too late.
> that really was
> boy talk to impress the guys & not what he really thinks
That's exactly what Trump thinks. His words and actions for the past 30+ years have shown what he's really like in that respect. Don't try and paint him as some Saint. He has flaws and issues which concern many people.
>complete
> non-issue.
It most certainly isn't.
> Most people weren't fooled by media attempts to make it look
> like a fatal character flaw.
It is a character flaw but the disenfranchised were willing to overlook it in order to believe in what Trump was selling, i.e. that he would create jobs for these people.
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Nov 10 09:42PM -0500
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 18:18:52 -0800 (PST), Court_1
>> > A capitalist society is all about having the opportunity to better yourself. There will always be some degree of income inequality in that system. The goal should be to help ease the general income inequality situation but you are never going to resolve it fully and it's not the responsibility of the government to do that. It's their responsibility to try and make it better and ease some of the burden for those who earn less. That's it.
>> Strawman much? Christ.
>Fat Drew Carey, it isn't a strawman at all.
drew carey lost a lot of weight. and even if he didn't what a mean
thing to say!
> I answered Bob's question. Don't you have some leeching off the wealthy you need to do or some more complaining to do? You could be bettering your circumstances instead of bitching all the time about capitalism.
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Nov 10 09:44PM -0500
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 18:16:41 -0800 (PST), Gracchus
>Putting in place Sanders policies on health care, education, etc. would mean higher taxes on the wealthy, but I doubt if they'd put even that much of a dent in those with fortunes like Koch's. They would still be filthy rich, but the problem is that they're too greedy to part with *any* of that wealth. Nor do they think they're obliged in the least to feed anything back into the system that allows them to live in opulence.
>> why not expand this to life the problem of 47mil in poverty????
>You already know her answer on that one. It's 47 million too lazy to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Got to shake your head at thinking like this, but maybe some people sleep easier with the Romney delusion.
speaking of romney, add another name to the list destroyed this yr by
trump. bushes, clintons and romney! woohoo!!!
bob
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Talk show radio hosts, Glenn Beck and Fox News
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Nov 10 05:45PM -0800
On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 7:21:20 PM UTC-6, bob wrote:
> >This is gonna be the end of them.
> we can only hope! actually this is going to be the end of a LOT of
> folks. exactly as i hoped.
End of Bill O Reily? Hannity? Clintons? Who else?
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Nov 10 09:38PM -0500
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 17:45:50 -0800 (PST), soccerfan777
>> we can only hope! actually this is going to be the end of a LOT of
>> folks. exactly as i hoped.
>End of Bill O Reily? Hannity? Clintons? Who else?
? those are trump's 2 biggest supporters...they might get cabinet
positions!
>> >Now they are ruling it! There is no Obama to blame it all on!
>> >I pity them :)
>> bob
bob
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Misogynist Americans couldn't stand the thought of a woman in charge
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Nov 10 09:35PM -0500
>> what i've been saying for a year.
>> bob
>In which way did I change my tune?
for 1, i don't see the name hitler mentioned.
bob
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OT: well, here we are.
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Nov 10 09:30PM -0500
>>> I hope you get to enjoy rest of your life conservative supreme court...
>> rest of my life? c'mon, these old geezers die off.
>And if they die during Trump's presidency...
trump's going to get a 6-3 majority likely. and if he replaces kennedy
for similar, he'll just extend the 6-3 timeframe. but IMO he won't go
crazy with very conservative anti abortion types.
bob
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OT: Bill Black on the Election
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Nov 11 03:26AM +0100
>> uncomfortable. What are you, a bully?
> You are a fukken idiot. Europeans are free to move and work in any country in the Schengen area. There is no visa concept. What kind of dumbass country would not want to have qualified immigrants.
> There are a lot of immigrants in Japan and many of them American. Go fuck yourself.
But Shengen doesn't come out of the blue does it you moron?
First you have to join EU and that's incredibly difficult. You
have to have highest standards and enough developed economy
first.
E.g. USA wouldn't be able to join EU as it would be considered a
repressive society. Your state kills people there? No EU for you.
Next when you join, your people are still not allowed to travel
freely across Europe and work wherever they want. There are 2+3+2
years of potential bans any country can set on you. Everyone
feers the influx of foreign workers lowering the wages etc.
Besides, going to another country means you have to learn a new
language. That's not the easiest thing if we're talking about
less relevant languages that nobody learns. Who learns Hungarian
and why?
The whole point of everything are open borders among the European
countries that share common values, are at least similarly
developed so that INDIVIDUALS could have freedom of movement
within EU if they want. But you see, should they want, and only
EU members.
But there is no risk for any nation in this. Finnish people will
not flock to Slovakia or Croats to Denmark. And if an individual
does, he's well poised to adapt to new life.
But non EU members, or savages as we call them, all this doesn't
apply to them.
Merkel started the process of destruction of EU by unlawfully
importing millions of non Europeans into EU.
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OT: new cabinet position
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Nov 10 09:25PM -0500
On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 18:45:01 -0800 (PST), Court_1
>> that can bring mfg jobs back in some semblance to them.
>So would I. I agree with Trump that NAFTA was a cancer for N. American manufacturing.
>But all of this time you've been shouting about an anti-establishment candidate who would help with income inequality isn't that right? So let's see if Trump is your guy or if he (as a billionaire elitist) will benefit mostly the upper classes. If he doesn't help them, you better be the first to admit it.
i'm predicting that in 1 year you'll be loving trump.
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Nov 10 09:26PM -0500
>even apart from sexual assault pov because he said he can do anything
>because he's famous... that alone tells us about some serious character
>flaw.
but he didn't say it in the oval office! or smoke any nasty cigars!
bob
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