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The Butcher of Waco 10-3-39 - 5 Updates

NOTBCS & NOTCFP rankings - 11/7 - 2 Updates

Sagarin predictor and SOS - 1 Update

NFL weirdness at the end of the half - 3 Updates

Prediction - 4 Updates

Who's violent? - 2 Updates

Bill Clinton still a race baiting hick - 1 Update

DOJ doing hard and heavy work for Hill-Dog, they will be - 1 Update

Soros has absolutely taken over our elections, not exaggerated much - 1 Update

I doubt these guys are fundy mentalists - 1 Update

It's Time to put the old Bear's legacy to rest - 1 Update

The Butcher of Waco 10-3-39

"wolfie" <bgbdwolf@gte.net>: Nov 07 08:27PM -0500

"RoddyMcCorley" wrote

> Elian Gonzalez says hi!

I really, really hate the fact the return of a kid to
his one surviving natural parent was politicized
at all.

Although I have to admit I laugh whenever I see
the mural of the dolphins supporting him in the
sea before his rescue....

"Con Reeder, unhyphenated American" <constance@duxmail.com>: Nov 07 08:14PM -0600

>> Elian Gonzalez says hi!

> I really, really hate the fact the return of a kid to his one
> surviving natural parent was politicized at all.

Yes, we know you have no objection to people being placed
under communism.

> Although I have to admit I laugh whenever I see the mural of the
> dolphins supporting him in the sea before his rescue....

Escaping from the system you would send him back to.

--
There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale
returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
-- Mark Twain

"wolfie" <bgbdwolf@gte.net>: Nov 07 09:42PM -0500

"Con Reeder, unhyphenated American" wrote
>> surviving natural parent was politicized at all.

> Yes, we know you have no objection to people being placed
> under communism.

Aw, look at the bleeding heart, all upset about an
illegal immigrant in a sanctuary city being deported...

I bet you get all teary-eyed about the Syrian refugees
forced to live under Islamic tyranny too.

"Con Reeder, unhyphenated American" <constance@duxmail.com>: Nov 07 09:20PM -0600

>> under communism.

> Aw, look at the bleeding heart, all upset about an illegal immigrant
> in a sanctuary city being deported...

Cubans were refugees by default and by law at that time. It was
a decision not about that status, but about the standing of who
applied for the (automatic) grant of asylum.

> I bet you get all teary-eyed about the Syrian refugees
> forced to live under Islamic tyranny too.

The ones of other religions, sure. Islamic ones living under Islamic
tyranny? Sounds like they need to start questioning their faith and
changing their religion from within.

If you support Sharia law in any particular, you have no business
applying for asylum and we should never grant it.

--
Unix version of an PC virus:
It works on the honor system. Please forward this message to everyone
you know, and delete a bunch of your files at random.

"wolfie" <bgbdwolf@gte.net>: Nov 07 11:04PM -0500

"Con Reeder, unhyphenated American" wrote

> Cubans were refugees by default and by law at that time. It was
> a decision not about that status, but about the standing of who
> applied for the (automatic) grant of asylum.

Yes, and only his father could do that. Since Elian
couldn't apply for refugee status, he was - as I
said - an illegal immigrant deported according to
the law.

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NOTBCS & NOTCFP rankings - 11/7

The NOTBCS Guy <don.p.del.grande@gmail.com>: Nov 07 04:26PM -0800

Here are the NOTCFP rankings:
#1: Alabama
#2: Michigan
#3: Clemson
#4: Washington
#5: Ohio State
#6: Wisconsin
#7: Louisville
#8: Auburn
#9: Oklahoma
#10: West Virginia
#11: Penn State
#12: Texas A&M
#13: Utah
#14: Florida State
#15: Colorado
#16: LSU
#17: Virginia Tech
#18: Florida
#19: Nebraska
#20: North Carolina
#21: Western Michigan
#22: Washington State
#23: Boise State
#24: Oklahoma State
#25: USC

Here are the bowl projections based on NOTCFP rankings, assuming (a) the highest-ranked team in each conference wins that conference, and (b) each "replacement" team will be the highest ranked team from that conference:
Peach: Alabama-Washington
Fiesta: Michigan-Clemson
Rose: Utah-Ohio State
Sugar: Auburn-Oklahoma
Orange: Louisville-Wisconsin
Cotton: West Virginia-Western Michigan

Here are the NOTBCS rankings, in terms of full places behind the #1 team:
Alabama, 0
Michigan, 1.47
Clemson, 1.89
Washington, 2.95
Ohio State, 3.92
Louisville, 4.92
Wisconsin, 6.73
Auburn, 7.53
Oklahoma, 11.52
Texas A&M, 11.55
Penn State, 12.77
West Virginia, 13.82
Colorado, 14.45
Western Michigan, 14.53
North Carolina, 16.07
Utah, 16.1
Florida State, 17.17
LSU, 17.47
Virginia Tech, 17.71
Washington State, 18.02
Nebraska, 18.22
Oklahoma State, 19.01
Florida, 19.72
Boise State, 19.74
USC, 21.4
Tennessee, 23.02
Arkansas, 23.55
Baylor, 23.57
Stanford, 23.89
San Diego State, 23.94
Troy, 23.97
Houston, 24.15
Mississippi, 24.4
Wyoming, 24.55
Miami, 24.61
Appalachian State, 24.62
South Florida, 24.75
Northwestern, 24.79
Toledo, 24.8
Tulsa, 24.82
TCU, 24.83
Navy, 24.84
Minnesota, 24.84
Western Kentucky, 24.86
Eastern Michigan, 24.87
BYU, 24.88
Temple, 24.89
Texas, 24.9
Mississippi State, 24.9
Iowa, 24.91
UCLA, 24.91
Louisiana Tech, 24.91
Kansas State, 24.91
all others, 24.92

Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: Nov 07 07:31PM -0700

In article <3b4b1994-8727-4fb4-a45b-eb0e29280b88@googlegroups.com>,

> Here are the bowl projections based on NOTCFP rankings, assuming (a) the highest-ranked team in each conference wins that conference, and (b) each "replacement" team will be the highest ranked team from that conference:
> Peach: Alabama-Washington
> Fiesta: Michigan-Clemson

I'd rather go to the Rose Bowl.

--
Michael Press

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Sagarin predictor and SOS

Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: Nov 07 07:26PM -0700

Alabama has the strongest SOS.

Alabama (9, 0)
2016-09-03 W 52-6 Southern Cal (6, 3)
2016-09-10 W 38-10 Western Kentucky (7, 3)
2016-09-17 W 48-43 @ Mississippi (4, 5)
2016-09-24 W 48-0 Kent St (3, 6)
2016-10-01 W 34-6 Kentucky (5, 4)
2016-10-08 W 49-30 @ Arkansas (6, 3)
2016-10-15 W 49-10 @ Tennessee (6, 3)
2016-10-22 W 33-14 Texas A&M (7, 2)
2016-11-05 W 10-0 @ LSU (5, 3)
2016-11-12 Mississippi St (4, 5)
2016-11-19 Chattanooga (8, 1)
2016-11-26 Auburn (7, 2)

After their 10 point win over Georgia Southern, Mississippi's
SOS slipped from #1 to #5. (and their predictor rank
slipped from #13 to #19.)

Tennessee's SOS rank went from #5 to #18.

W L SCHEDL(RANK) PREDICTOR
HOME ADVANTAGE [ 2.40]
1 Alabama 9 0 79.51( 1) 103.61
2 Michigan 9 0 70.53( 52) 102.83
3 Ohio State 8 1 74.07( 28) 100.60
4 Washington 9 0 66.80( 68) 94.41
5 Clemson 9 0 73.75( 32) 94.28
6 Louisville 8 1 68.69( 60) 93.96
7 Auburn 7 2 76.39( 13) 91.66
8 LSU 5 3 76.94( 11) 89.05
9 Colorado 7 2 75.00( 21) 87.85
10 Wisconsin 7 2 78.55( 7) 87.84
11 Texas A&M 7 2 75.31( 19) 87.47
12 Washington State 7 2 71.57( 43) 86.89
13 Oklahoma 7 2 74.04( 30) 85.97
14 Southern California 6 3 76.28( 15) 85.08
15 Virginia Tech 7 2 71.62( 42) 84.99
16 Florida State 6 3 79.47( 2) 84.11
17 Penn State 7 2 74.26( 26) 83.51
18 Western Michigan 9 0 60.23( 103) 83.26
19 Mississippi 4 5 78.78( 5) 83.18
20 West Virginia 7 1 71.38( 44) 82.57
21 Miami-Florida 5 4 73.13( 36) 82.45
22 Stanford 6 3 78.95( 4) 82.14
23 Florida 6 2 68.13( 64) 82.07
24 North Carolina 7 2 74.05( 29) 81.28
25 Tennessee 6 3 75.47( 18) 81.26
26 Oklahoma State 7 2 68.66( 61) 80.49
27 TCU 5 4 71.36( 45) 80.19
28 Houston 7 2 64.14( 82) 79.54
29 San Diego State 8 1 57.44( 122) 78.83
30 Utah 7 2 71.74( 41) 78.70
31 UCLA 3 6 78.56( 6) 78.37
32 Baylor 6 2 62.89( 90) 78.30
33 BYU 5 4 74.12( 27) 78.28
34 Nebraska 7 2 70.77( 51) 78.04
35 Kansas State 5 4 73.49( 33) 78.02
36 Texas 5 4 74.38( 24) 77.99
37 Boise State 8 1 65.70( 72) 77.90
38 Arkansas 6 3 78.41( 8) 77.42
39 South Florida 7 2 65.13( 75) 76.99
40 Northwestern 4 5 75.92( 17) 76.95
41 Iowa 5 4 69.95( 54) 76.50
42 Memphis 6 3 63.42( 84) 76.30
43 Temple 7 3 64.62( 79) 76.27
44 Pittsburgh 5 4 74.27( 25) 76.24
45 Notre Dame 3 6 71.83( 40) 74.93
46 NC State 4 5 70.95( 49) 74.80
47 Texas Tech 4 5 73.20( 35) 74.74
48 Toledo 7 2 57.43( 123) 74.70
49 Western Kentucky 7 3 58.40( 114) 74.62
50 Tulsa 7 2 62.99( 89) 74.56
51 Minnesota 7 2 64.78( 77) 74.51
52 Central Florida(UCF) 5 4 65.11( 76) 74.19
53 Arizona State 5 4 74.59( 22) 73.70
54 Mississippi State 4 5 72.02( 38) 73.52
55 Oregon 3 6 77.95( 10) 72.96
56 Georgia Tech 5 4 71.11( 47) 72.65
57 North Dakota State 8 1 60.51( 101) 72.31
58 Navy 6 2 67.50( 66) 72.20
59 Appalachian State 7 2 59.98( 104) 72.17
60 Troy 7 1 55.10( 138) 72.12
61 California 4 5 76.29( 14) 72.10
62 Louisiana Tech 7 3 57.92( 118) 71.58
63 Duke 3 6 71.97( 39) 71.47
64 Georgia 5 4 73.20( 34) 70.99
65 Indiana 5 4 67.93( 65) 70.34
66 Eastern Washington 8 1 57.11( 124) 69.79
67 Michigan State 2 7 74.56( 23) 69.43
68 Vanderbilt 4 5 72.20( 37) 69.26
69 Wake Forest 6 3 66.48( 70) 69.18
70 Maryland 5 4 68.77( 59) 68.76
71 Kentucky 5 4 69.44( 58) 68.52
72 South Carolina 5 4 70.52( 53) 68.52
73 Northern Iowa 4 5 58.60( 112) 68.19
74 Oregon State 2 7 79.13( 3) 67.99
75 Air Force 6 3 59.40( 108) 67.64
76 Missouri 2 7 69.79( 55) 67.05
77 Iowa State 1 8 76.41( 12) 67.00
78 Wyoming 7 2 63.10( 87) 66.99
79 Army West Point 5 4 56.77( 126) 66.70
80 Colorado State 5 4 63.09( 88) 66.41
81 East Carolina 3 6 69.61( 57) 66.08
82 Illinois 3 6 71.21( 46) 65.74
83 Virginia 2 7 71.03( 48) 65.40
84 Middle Tennessee 6 3 59.25( 110) 64.91
85 Syracuse 4 5 73.91( 31) 64.63
86 James Madison 8 1 43.57( 189) 64.06
87 South Dakota State 6 3 55.82( 132) 63.28
88 Boston College 4 5 69.71( 56) 63.23
89 Arizona 2 7 78.23( 9) 63.20
90 Northern Illinois 3 6 63.10( 86) 63.15
91 Ohio 7 3 54.45( 140) 62.88
92 Jacksonville State 8 1 46.65( 172) 62.71
93 Arkansas State 4 4 61.82( 94) 62.69
94 Georgia Southern 4 5 63.46( 83) 62.46
95 Utah State 3 6 67.13( 67) 62.38
96 New Mexico 6 3 55.79( 133) 62.19
97 Cincinnati 4 5 65.57( 73) 61.83
98 Youngstown State 6 3 56.87( 125) 61.45
99 Southern Miss 5 4 55.35( 136) 61.29
100 Central Arkansas 8 1 41.11( 205) 61.24
101 Old Dominion 6 3 56.71( 128) 61.22
102 Central Michigan 5 5 62.71( 92) 61.15
103 SMU 4 5 70.93( 50) 60.96
104 Montana 6 3 47.54( 168) 60.12
105 Chattanooga 8 1 42.54( 195) 59.90
106 UTSA 5 4 56.72( 127) 58.67
107 Richmond 7 2 47.55( 167) 58.21
108 Tulane 3 6 64.17( 81) 58.02
109 Sam Houston State 9 0 34.03( 227) 57.94
110 Samford 6 3 55.01( 139) 57.59
111 Connecticut 3 7 68.15( 63) 57.47
112 Georgia State 2 7 63.19( 85) 57.44
113 Ball State 4 5 58.23( 116) 57.44
114 The Citadel 9 0 47.64( 166) 57.37
115 South Alabama 4 5 60.41( 102) 57.13
116 Miami-Ohio 4 6 59.88( 105) 57.07
117 Rutgers 2 7 75.23( 20) 57.06
118 Purdue 3 6 68.64( 62) 56.97
119 Kent State 3 6 59.32( 109) 56.93
120 Villanova 7 2 45.19( 183) 56.60
121 Akron 5 5 61.68( 95) 56.51
122 UNLV 3 6 59.13( 111) 56.15
123 Eastern Michigan 5 4 60.84( 100) 56.13
124 Coastal Carolina 7 2 39.63( 214) 55.98
125 Lehigh 8 2 41.71( 200) 55.96
126 Illinois State 5 5 55.29( 137) 55.82
127 Hawai'i 4 6 64.30( 80) 55.27
128 Northern Arizona 5 4 53.22( 142) 55.12
129 Wofford 6 3 48.96( 157) 55.06
130 Western Illinois 6 3 55.55( 134) 54.81
131 Princeton 6 2 37.79( 216) 54.79
132 Charleston Southern 5 3 48.10( 163) 54.64
133 North Texas 4 5 59.82( 106) 54.36
134 Idaho 5 4 61.89( 93) 54.32
135 Cal Poly-SLO 6 3 52.10( 144) 54.30
136 Nevada 3 6 57.93( 117) 53.80
137 Massachusetts 2 8 64.67( 78) 53.62
138 North Dakota 8 2 45.33( 182) 53.42
139 San Jose State 3 7 65.25( 74) 53.37
140 Liberty 6 3 43.31( 191) 52.97
141 Kansas 1 8 76.22( 16) 52.93
142 Marshall 2 7 57.91( 119) 52.75
143 Grambling State 7 1 24.11( 248) 52.00
144 South Dakota 4 5 55.87( 131) 51.88
145 New Hampshire 6 3 44.25( 186) 51.85
146 Louisiana-Lafayette 3 5 55.45( 135) 51.75
147 Southern Illinois 3 6 50.95( 145) 51.40
148 NC A&T 8 1 34.31( 226) 51.17
149 Fresno State 1 9 66.50( 69) 50.03
150 Southern Utah 5 4 46.48( 173) 49.60
151 Colgate 3 5 45.79( 178) 49.57
152 Tennessee-Martin 6 4 46.40( 174) 49.56
153 Charlotte 4 5 57.45( 121) 49.27
154 Fla. International 3 7 61.66( 96) 48.75
155 Furman 2 7 52.74( 143) 48.14
156 Bowling Green 1 8 65.91( 71) 48.11
157 Albany-NY 5 4 43.53( 190) 47.92
158 Florida Atlantic 2 7 58.24( 115) 47.71
159 Saint Francis-Pa. 6 3 40.91( 207) 47.16
160 San Diego 8 1 23.62( 250) 47.15
161 Indiana State 4 6 53.74( 141) 46.59
162 Kennesaw State 7 2 42.51( 196) 46.54
163 Harvard 7 1 34.84( 224) 46.51
164 Rice 1 8 61.48( 98) 46.28
165 Delaware 4 5 45.51( 179) 46.26
166 Louisiana-Monroe 3 6 61.05( 99) 46.16
167 New Mexico State 2 6 62.84( 91) 45.97
168 Stony Brook 5 4 48.05( 164) 45.75
169 UTEP 3 6 57.64( 120) 45.41
170 Portland State 3 6 49.58( 153) 45.38
171 Weber State 5 4 48.34( 161) 45.31
172 SE Missouri State 3 6 46.81( 170) 45.05
173 Missouri State 4 5 59.80( 107) 44.94
174 Pennsylvania 5 3 39.79( 213) 44.93
175 Gardner-Webb 4 6 48.93( 158) 44.90
176 William & Mary 4 5 45.39( 180) 44.70
177 Mercer 5 4 46.01( 176) 44.65
178 Buffalo 2 7 58.41( 113) 44.57
179 Maine 5 4 50.25( 147) 44.46
180 McNeese State 5 5 42.12( 198) 44.44
181 Eastern Illinois 5 5 47.89( 165) 44.32
182 Northern Colorado 5 4 49.28( 156) 43.64
183 Fordham 6 3 41.66( 201) 43.57
184 Towson 2 7 50.30( 146) 43.49
185 Nicholls State 5 4 42.56( 194) 43.13
186 Tennessee State 6 3 37.83( 215) 42.87
187 Dartmouth 4 4 40.33( 209) 42.56
188 Texas State 2 6 61.59( 97) 42.36
189 SE Louisiana 5 4 42.34( 197) 41.61
190 UC Davis 2 7 56.21( 129) 41.30
191 Montana State 2 7 49.83( 151) 41.17
192 Murray State 4 5 45.36( 181) 40.77
193 Tennessee Tech 3 6 48.64( 159) 40.40
194 Western Carolina 2 7 50.12( 148) 40.29
195 Duquesne 6 3 37.04( 218) 39.95
196 SC State 3 5 46.69( 171) 39.85
197 Lamar 3 6 45.93( 177) 39.32
198 Eastern Kentucky 2 7 49.91( 149) 38.72
199 VMI 3 6 44.45( 185) 37.90
200 Stephen F. Austin 4 5 47.05( 169) 37.21
201 Southern U. 6 2 26.90( 244) 37.19
202 Bucknell 3 6 40.03( 211) 36.72
203 NC Central 7 2 29.68( 236) 36.55
204 Sacred Heart 6 3 29.99( 235) 36.35
205 Holy Cross 4 6 41.95( 199) 36.31
206 Dayton 8 2 23.89( 249) 36.14
207 Bryant 4 5 36.70( 219) 35.28
208 Monmouth-NJ 4 6 45.14( 184) 35.02
209 Idaho State 2 7 55.87( 130) 34.16
210 Bethune-Cookman 3 5 31.84( 229) 33.68
211 Wagner 4 5 40.18( 210) 33.59
212 Cornell 3 5 41.22( 204) 33.54
213 Prairie View A&M 6 3 31.50( 230) 33.36
214 Abilene Christian 2 8 42.72( 193) 32.56
215 Northwestern State 1 8 43.96( 187) 32.52
216 Lafayette 2 7 43.91( 188) 32.11
217 Columbia 2 6 41.57( 203) 31.92
218 Brown 3 5 36.24( 220) 31.21
219 Hampton 4 4 33.75( 228) 31.05
220 Elon 2 7 49.49( 154) 30.99
221 Yale 2 6 41.62( 202) 30.55
222 Sacramento State 1 8 48.39( 160) 30.32
223 Georgetown 3 6 37.77( 217) 30.14
224 Austin Peay 0 9 48.13( 162) 29.08
225 Central Connecticut 2 7 40.54( 208) 29.04
226 Robert Morris 2 8 43.09( 192) 29.03
227 Alcorn State 3 5 30.56( 233) 28.39
228 Incarnate Word 1 8 41.10( 206) 27.01
229 Presbyterian College 2 7 49.68( 152) 26.67
230 East Tennessee State 3 6

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NFL weirdness at the end of the half

"The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" <Iamtj4life@gmail.com>: Nov 07 07:14PM -0800

Sherman grossly offside and wipes out the kicker

Only flagged for offside

Which is ridiculous - or else every defensive player offside will spike the qb - or kicker for that matter.

And then the trainers came on - so the kicker HAD to leave for a play.

Which leads me to wonder if this can't be a strategy - on a last second fg attempt, go offside, blow up the kicker and voila - if you hit him hard enough and get the trainer to come out, they have to have a backup kicker come on.

Oh and the ensuing FG attempt, the Bills were called for delay - after the ref didn't back off the ball until there were 5 seconds left?

Buffalo should be livid right now

"Con Reeder, unhyphenated American" <constance@duxmail.com>: Nov 07 09:23PM -0600

> Which leads me to wonder if this can't be a strategy - on a last second fg attempt, go offside, blow up the kicker and voila - if you hit him hard enough and get the trainer to come out, they have to have a backup kicker come on.

> Oh and the ensuing FG attempt, the Bills were called for delay - after the ref didn't back off the ball until there were 5 seconds left?

> Buffalo should be livid right now

Hell, I'm livid, and I don't give a shit.

Why is Seattle a magnet for stupid, cowardly ref calls. It's like the
refs are afraid the "12th man" is going to come out of the stands and
whup them.

--
Courage is fear holding on a minute longer.
-- General George S. Patton

"The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" <Iamtj4life@gmail.com>: Nov 07 07:26PM -0800

On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 9:23:13 PM UTC-6, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:

> Why is Seattle a magnet for stupid, cowardly ref calls. It's like the
> refs are afraid the "12th man" is going to come out of the stands and
> whup them.

I kinda want a Buffalo lineman to jump offside and wipe out Wilson on the first play from scrimmage - and see what the refs do

What a bullshit series from the zebras

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Prediction

unclejr <watsona64@gmail.com>: Nov 07 05:57PM -0800

On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 6:11:06 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:
> DJT: 214

> HRC: 49%
> DJT: 46%

That's only 536 delegates.

JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com>: Nov 07 06:03PM -0800

On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:11:06 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
> DJT: 214

> HRC: 49%
> DJT: 46%

I'm going to stick with Sam Wang's PEC: 312 to 226

Michael <michaeldwilson2@gmail.com>: Nov 07 07:04PM -0800

On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:57:27 PM UTC-6, unclejr wrote:

> > HRC: 49%
> > DJT: 46%

> That's only 536 delegates.

I'm going to blame the calculator even though it was user operator error.

http://www.270towin.com/

jim brown <jimbrowndoc@yahoo.com>: Nov 07 07:23PM -0800

On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 6:11:06 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:
> DJT: 214

> HRC: 49%
> DJT: 46%

T: 281
C: 252

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Who's violent?

"Con Reeder, unhyphenated American" <constance@duxmail.com>: Nov 07 08:16PM -0600

> That's violence AFAIK. Especially when the person who put it up is
> standing there, you're flipping him off while screaming at him before
> you take the sign.

Yup. A lot of people don't know that assault doesn't require contact,
and that robbery doesn't require a weapon.

--
Experience is what allows you to recognize a mistake the second time you
make it. -- unknown

Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: Nov 07 06:59PM -0700

In article <nvr541$lh1$2@dont-email.me>,

> > Hugh

> Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again is on a sign I've
> seen many times.

Trespassers will be violated.
Offenders will be prostituted.

--
Michael Press

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Bill Clinton still a race baiting hick

CtrlAltDel <altiemcd@aol.com>: Nov 08 02:22AM

Ohh, the white working class is chocking on their own Milwaukee's Best
flavored vomit and aren't living as long due to the 5 pouches of Bugler a
day they smoke.

Cry me a river. Every time I read about Billy, he seems to be getting
worse. Now he sounds virtually identical to David Duke or someone like
Hitler.

https://is.gd/5Zumod

Leaked Bill Clinton Speech: Obama Years Left No Hope For White Working
Class

The economic stagnancy of the Obama years is to blame for plummeting life
expectancy rates among white, working-class Americans, according to former
president Bill Clinton, who privately told Democratic donors that lower-
income whites "don't have anything to look forward to when they get up in
the morning."

Clinton made the remarks while speaking to at a November 2015 closed-door
fundraiser for Hillary Clinton in Canton, Ohio.

Echoing a theme of Republican nominee Donald Trump's campaign, the former
president expressed his concern that white, working-class Americans have
been left behind over the last eight years.
Former U.S. President Bill Clinton shakes hands with U.S. President Barack
Obama after a discussion about healthcare at the Clinton Global Initiative
(CGI) in New York September 24, 2013.

Clinton expressed his frustration with the most recent (at that time)
Democratic debate, which he said lacked a single mention of the fact that
"84 percent of the American people, after inflation, had not had a raise
of 1 cent since the financial crash."

"We have incredible debates all over America that shouldn't exist between
people in different racial groups because they don't trust law enforcement
anymore," he continued. "And in the middle of all this we learned,
breathtakingly, that middle-aged, non-college-educated white Americans'
life expectancy is going down and is now lower than Hispanics, even though
they make less money."

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"And the gap between African Americans and whites is closing, but
unfortunately not because the death rate among African Americans is
dropping but because the death rate among white Americans is rising."
Clinton continued.

"Why? Because they don't have anything to look forward to when they get up
in the morning. Because their lives are sort of stuck in neutral. Because
their lives are sort of stuck in neutral." (RELATED: Bill Clinton Told
Donors The Border Won't Be Secure 'For A Very Long Time')

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DOJ doing hard and heavy work for Hill-Dog, they will be

CtrlAltDel <altiemcd@aol.com>: Nov 02 09:21PM

rewarded, you can count on that.

WikiLeaks: DOJ official gave Clinton camp 'heads up' about email filing

By Matthew Nussbaum

https://is.gd/iAFhm5

11/02/16 03:44 PM EDT

Updated 11/02/16 03:59 PM EDT
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A senior Department of Justice official gave Hillary Clinton's campaign
chairman a "heads up" about new developments related to Clinton's email
use as secretary of state, according to hacked emails published Wednesday
by WikiLeaks.

In May of 2016, Assistant Attorney General Peter Kadzik emailed Clinton
campaign chairman John Podesta to tell him about potential developments at
an impending congressional hearing, as well as about a new development in
a Freedom of Information Act request for Clinton's State Department emails.

In an email from Kadzik's personal account titled "Heads up," he wrote:
"There is a [House Judiciary Committee] oversight hearing today where the
head of our Civil Division will testify. Likely to get questions on State
Department emails. Another filing in the FOIA case went in last night or
will go in this am that indicates it will be awhile (2016) before the
State Department posts the emails."

Podesta forwarded the email to a cadre of top Clinton aides, adding:
"Additional chances for mischief."

It appears Kadzik was referencing a subcommittee hearing on "Ongoing
Oversight: Monitoring the Activities of the Justice Department's Civil,
Tax and Environment and Natural Resources Divisions and the U.S. Trustee
Program." Four DOJ officials testified at the hearing, which was publicly
announced.

The WikiLeaks revelation comes as Kadzik is in the middle of another flare-
up over Clinton's email, after FBI Director James Comey Friday informed
Congress of possible new developments in the case.

"We assure you that the Department will continue to work closely with the
FBI and together, dedicate all necessary resource and take appropriate
steps as expeditiously as possible," Kadzik wrote in letters to Congress
on Monday.

Podesta and Kadzik have a longstanding relationship. During Bill Clinton's
presidency, Kadzik provided legal representation to Podesta during the
probe that ultimately led to revelations of Bill Clinton's affair with
White House intern Monica Lewinski. In a separate hacked email published
by WikiLeaks, Podesta said Hadzik "kept me out of jail."

Previous WikiLeaks emails have shown an ongoing friendship between Kadzik
and Podesta. They, along with other friends, had dinner together the day
after Clinton testified before a House panel about the 2012 attacks on a
U.S. facility in Benghazi.
National poll: Clinton and Trump tied

Trump asks supporters to 'pretend we're down'

Trump seized on the hacked email at a rally in Miami Wednesday.

"In a newly released email, through WikiLeaks again, we learned that Kadzik
was feeding information about the investigation into the Clinton
campaign," Trump said. "And that Kadzik said, 'It will be awhile before
the State Department posts the emails.'"

"These are the people that want to run our country, folks," Trump added.
"The spread of political agendas into the Justice Department — there's
never been a thing like this that has happened in our country's history —
is one of the saddest things that has happened to our country."

The Justice Department did not immediately respond to a request for
comment.

Clinton's campaign has declined to comment on the veracity of the WikiLeaks
emails, accusing the site of working to aid Russia and Donald Trump's
presidential campaign.

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Soros has absolutely taken over our elections, not exaggerated much

CtrlAltDel <altiemcd@aol.com>: Nov 08 01:19AM

https://is.gd/Waa8C3

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I doubt these guys are fundy mentalists

Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>: Nov 02 04:56PM -0400

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-uganda-lgbt-idUSKBN12X0WJ?il=0

"In Uganda, gay men say police use torturous method to 'prove'
homosexuality"

--
"If you're going to kick authority in the teeth, you might as well use
two feet."
- Keef

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It's Time to put the old Bear's legacy to rest

unclejr <watsona64@gmail.com>: Nov 07 12:28PM -0800

On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 12:15:25 PM UTC-6, CtrlAltDel wrote:
> > all-time.

> John McKay was the best ever though, really. He taught Bryant many of the
> things he knew about football and about life and how to get by and survive.

You're trolling the wrong Uncle, Altie. unklebob is a Washington fan.

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