rec.sport.tennis@googlegroups.com
Google Groups
Topic digest
View all topics
Official rst US Open predictions 2015 - 6 Updates
Kick Kyrgios and Casual Sexism - Article - 1 Update
Rafa snubs Kyrgios ... - 1 Update
The Great Man prevails - 11 Updates
Saw Pixels film - Serena Williams is a fantasy girl in it!!!! but where was TT? - 1 Update
Heidi Klum - is ugly. - 1 Update
Federer returning from the service line - 1 Update
If Serena doesnt win USO and be called as the undisputed GOAT by every Tom Dick and Harry - 2 Updates
Murray will go out in the 1st round - 1 Update
Official rst US Open predictions 2015
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Aug 30 07:48PM +1000
Wawrinka d Federer
Serena d Halep
heyguys00@gmail.com: Aug 30 03:44AM -0700
Djok d Murray
Serena d Azarenka
grif <griffin_230@hotmail.com>: Aug 30 01:29PM +0100
On 30/08/2015 10:48, Whisper wrote:
> Wawrinka d Federer
Lol.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Aug 30 10:44PM +1000
On 30/08/2015 10:29 PM, grif wrote:
> Lol.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/french-open-2015-stan-wawrinka-annihilates-roger-federer-as-fans-hurt-by-flying-debris-20150602-ghff4y.html
grif <griffin_230@hotmail.com>: Aug 30 01:48PM +0100
On 30/08/2015 13:44, Whisper wrote:
> http://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/french-open-2015-stan-wawrinka-annihilates-roger-federer-as-fans-hurt-by-flying-debris-20150602-ghff4y.html
You might want to check the draw and resubmit the finalists.
"Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net>: Aug 30 12:31PM -0400
In article <mro3m4$odt$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
"DavidW" <no@email.provided> wrote:
Thank you David for continuing this.
Gentlemen Novak Djokovic defeats Roger Federer
Ladies Serena Williams defeats Petra Kvitova
--
Remove blown from email address to reply.
Back to top
Kick Kyrgios and Casual Sexism - Article
Shakes <kvcshake@gmail.com>: Aug 30 09:21AM -0700
On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 11:53:46 PM UTC-7, Darkfalz wrote:
> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 2:43:41 AM UTC+10, soccerfan777 wrote:
> > Interesting article. It just points out that sexism will always exist and there is no way to get rid off it. As long as polygamous men are considered studs and polygamous women are considered sluts, things will never change.
> Except it's women and only women who enforce this dynamic. Discriminating against such men would mean avoiding men with the highest SMV and/or resources, which they will never do.
I think that's a good point.
Back to top
Rafa snubs Kyrgios ...
jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com>: Aug 30 06:18AM -0800
>> http://nypost.com/2015/08/27/big-name-star-refuses-to-play-with-tennis-bad-boy-nick-kyrgios/
>> Way to go, Rafa!
> Yes. Vamos, Rafa.
Supposedly Nadal has recanted... claims he didn't know
LOL
http://nypost.com/2015/08/30/rafael-nadal-i-didnt-refuse-to-play-with-nick-kyrgios/
Back to top
The Great Man prevails
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Aug 30 07:27PM +1000
On 30/08/2015 2:28 PM, AZ wrote:
> So when he lost those big matches to junior players he was burnt out and about to retire. But when he won, it was because he was so good.
> LOL.Even your so called "Fedfuckers" on this ng are not so biased and creative in excuse-making as you are with Sampras.
Not at all. It just proves Hewitt/Safin types were not an issue for
Sampras in absolute terms. Clowns like John think Hewitt was actually
better than Sampras in absolute terms based on 1 slam win when Sampras
was 30, but then with a straight face say Rafa's multiple slam wins over
Fed on all 3 surfaces are of no consequence.
: )
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Aug 30 07:29PM +1000
On 30/08/2015 3:00 PM, John Liang wrote:
>> mention the losses & ignore that he also beat them easily in the same 1
>> year period.
> Yes, put it into context Sampras at younger age lost grand slam finals with two absolute thrashing at the hand of grand slam final rookies like Safin and Hewitt. Federer at almost 3 or 4 years older lost to peak and multiple slam winner Djokovic in the last two Wimbledon finals, one a tough five setter and other a tough four setter, no double bread sticks in those matches. What you also forgotten is unlike Federer Sampras was playing grand slam final rookies not multiple slam winners in the final so he had big match experience on his side and he was at a disadvantage physically, Federer on the other hand was playing a player who did not lack big match experience and was five years younger than him.
Give me a break. Murray had zero slams to his name when Fed won his
last slam over him. Murray is a clown by all time standards, Agassi is
a legend.
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: Aug 30 02:43AM -0700
On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 7:27:17 PM UTC+10, Whisper wrote:
> better than Sampras in absolute terms based on 1 slam win when Sampras
> was 30, but then with a straight face say Rafa's multiple slam wins over
> Fed on all 3 surfaces are of no consequence.
Run out of the argument and start some personal attack, firstly I never used the term such as absolute terms that is something grow out your own ass, secondly don't change the argument if it is bad for Federer at 32/33 losing to a multi slam winner at Wimbledon in 4 or 5 sets in the last two year, how about Sampras losing to grand slam final rookies in two years in a row even with two sets coming as bread sticks.
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: Aug 30 02:46AM -0700
On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 7:29:11 PM UTC+10, Whisper wrote:
> Give me a break. Murray had zero slams to his name when Fed won his
> last slam over him. Murray is a clown by all time standards, Agassi is
> a legend.
Give you a break sure, but Murray is not worse player than Hewitt and Safin, he still lost to Federer when Federer was 28.5 and at the same age Sampras was thrashed in the straight sets by Safin and Hewitt. If Murray was a clown by all time standard so were Hewitt and Safin with even less career achievements.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Aug 30 08:02PM +1000
On 30/08/2015 7:46 PM, John Liang wrote:
>> last slam over him. Murray is a clown by all time standards, Agassi is
>> a legend.
> Give you a break sure, but Murray is not worse player than Hewitt and Safin,
Murray never got to No.1.
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: Aug 30 03:24AM -0700
On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 8:02:13 PM UTC+10, Whisper wrote:
> >> a legend.
> > Give you a break sure, but Murray is not worse player than Hewitt and Safin,
> Murray never got to No.1.
Sure but won Wimbledon and USO and won Olympic Gold and was in more grand slam finals than both Safin and Hewitt.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Aug 30 08:55PM +1000
On 30/08/2015 8:24 PM, John Liang wrote:
>> Murray never got to No.1.
> Sure but won Wimbledon and USO and won Olympic Gold and was in more grand slam finals than both Safin and Hewitt.
In a softer era.
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: Aug 30 05:02AM -0700
On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 8:55:16 PM UTC+10, Whisper wrote:
> >> Murray never got to No.1.
> > Sure but won Wimbledon and USO and won Olympic Gold and was in more grand slam finals than both Safin and Hewitt.
> In a softer era.
Softer era, you could not get a softer era than Kafelnikovs of the world was ranked No.1 in the world and that was the Sampras era.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Aug 30 10:14PM +1000
On 30/08/2015 10:02 PM, John Liang wrote:
>> In a softer era.
> Softer era, you could not get a softer era than Kafelnikovs of the world was ranked No.1 in the world and that was the Sampras era.
That was arguably the toughest era ever. Remember peak Agassi played in
that era, & he kinda toyed with peakest Federer at 2004 & 2005 USOs,
despite being 35 & basically a cripple.
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: Aug 30 05:53AM -0700
On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 10:14:27 PM UTC+10, Whisper wrote:
> That was arguably the toughest era ever. Remember peak Agassi played in
> that era, & he kinda toyed with peakest Federer at 2004 & 2005 USOs,
> despite being 35 & basically a cripple.
How many time you need to be told to watch a full match not a half match ? It was hardly the toughest era much softer than 80s and you could not find weaker No.1s than those in that era Moya, Kuerten, Muster who were essentially one surface player and I am still scratching my head on how Kafelnikov actually won 2 AO with his mental attitude and rubbish game. And Agassi toyed with Federer? well he lost the last 8 times to Federer including a straight set thumping at his favor event at AO. Do you remember your comments after their 2004 match ?
John Liang <jliang70@gmail.com>: Aug 30 05:57AM -0700
On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 10:14:27 PM UTC+10, Whisper wrote:
> That was arguably the toughest era ever. Remember peak Agassi played in
> that era, & he kinda toyed with peakest Federer at 2004 & 2005 USOs,
> despite being 35 & basically a cripple.
You forgot the priority of the match is about winning not about toying with opponents, there never will be credit given for toying with opponents but credits are given for winning but not leading at some stage of a match.
Back to top
Saw Pixels film - Serena Williams is a fantasy girl in it!!!! but where was TT?
grif <griffin_230@hotmail.com>: Aug 30 01:45PM +0100
On 23/08/2015 11:17, TT wrote:
> Sounds fun. Yeah, I would probably be called in duty too. :)
> Too bad that it has Adam Sandler though. And what the hell... no Billy Mitchell, Steve Wiebe or say Donald Hayes. Oh wait, it HAS Steve Wiebe as "DARPA scientist".
There was some fun in the movie, notably Dinklage's character who reminded me of Billy Mitchell. In fact, I suspect the creators must have watched "The King of Kong".
Also saw Southpaw:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1798684/
Kinda predictable for the last act, but I thought Jake Gyllenhaal was excellent, and the girl who plays the daughter was surprisingly good too.
Back to top
Heidi Klum - is ugly.
Gerrit Rijtoopje <me@privacy.net>: Aug 30 12:07PM
Darkfalz <darkfalz.public@gmail.com> wrote in
>> Trump should be the last man to judge anyone's looks. He is *fired*.
> Trump has a net worth of several billion and he's a male. Fertile and
> pretty young women are a dime a dozen.
Don't confuse 'worth' with 'wealth'.
Back to top
Federer returning from the service line
kaennorsing <ljubitsis@hotmail.com>: Aug 30 12:15AM -0700
Op maandag 24 augustus 2015 17:27:52 UTC+2 schreef AZ:
> But if you observe carefully, he has actually been taking more risks to the net even in big slam matches these days. I think Edberg has got something to do with it.
Pelle does have a point, even if put as obnoxious as he is. Fed does have a tendency to retreat to more conservative plays at the tail end of slams (that clearly won't help him against top competitors). I assume it has lots to do with the gas tank. Fatigue makes cowards, after all.
Look at some of the new returns he's pulled off in Cincy. As you notice he got more and more effective with it as the tournament progressed, even against improving competition. Let's hope he keeps it up at the USO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YeQfwcfz1c
Back to top
If Serena doesnt win USO and be called as the undisputed GOAT by every Tom Dick and Harry
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Aug 30 12:24PM +1000
On 30/08/2015 5:49 AM, Guypers wrote:
>> Crawford and 1933: Won first three slams and lost USO final in 5th set against Perry while being 2-1 up in sets.
>> .mikko
> Muscles was a far better player than Hoadie, great volleyer, took apart the rocket in two wct finals!
Perhaps overall/longevity, but Kenny & Laver both say Hoad was the best
ever at peak. When you watch his matches at peak he looks like he's
playing ping pong & barely has to move while generating easy power.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Aug 30 12:26PM +1000
On 30/08/2015 6:03 AM, Gracchus wrote:
> On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 12:18:41 PM UTC-7, heyg...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Well you're not exactly an objective opinion on this given your extreme dislike for Serena. ;-)
> So it it were a player I liked...say for example that Federer had won the first three slams of the year--then I would say that *I* hoped he would win it. But the idea that ALL of his rivals and ALL tennis fans should want it to happen? Sorry, but it's just stupid no matter what player we're talking about.
Yes, you only give credit for these things after the event. In real
time you have to try & win all you can, stuff a rival getting even more
kudos at your expense.
Back to top
Murray will go out in the 1st round
justin quiring <me@privacy.net>: Aug 29 10:26PM +0100
I have placed a big bet on it. I will enjoy my winnings.
Back to top
You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this group. You can change your settings on the group membership page.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it send an email to rec.sport.tennis+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.