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Man Utd v Aston Villa Sithcast - 1 Update

Goal, Giwoud, 90 mins! Arsenal 4 - 1 Liverpool. Can Wodgers pull a wabbit out of the hat this Easter Saturday? - 2 Updates

Goal! Arsenal 1 - 0 Liverpool. Hector Bellerin, 37 mins - 2 Updates

Spiwit of Istanbul? Well maybe not. Emre Can gets a deserved wed card! - 1 Update

I need a finger we-tread! Arsenal 3 0 Liverpool. Sanchez, 45 mins - 2 Updates

Stirling goes into the Arsenal dwessing woom at half time! - 1 Update

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Muhammad's Sword - 1 Update

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Whatever Happened to Ron - 10 Updates

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Man Utd v Aston Villa Sithcast

Darth Simian <great_sage_equal_of_heaven_@hotmail.com>: Apr 04 03:01PM +0100

M Fellaini 2 - 0

West Brom v QPR, West Brom
Leicester v West Ham, West Ham
Everton v Southampton, Everton
Swansea v Hull, Swansea

I have foreseen it.
--
"In order to close the widely open road to iniquities; which might be
committed with impunity and also for other reasons, just and reasonable,
that have come to our knowledge... We have resolved and decreed to
condemn and forbid such Societies, assemblies, reunions, aggregations or
meetings called either Freemasonic or known under some other
denomination. WE CONDEMN AND FORBID THEM BY THIS, OUR PRESENT
CONSTITUTION, WHICH IS TO BE CONSIDERED VALID FOR EVER."
Pope Clement XII, April 28 1738.

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Goal, Giwoud, 90 mins! Arsenal 4 - 1 Liverpool. Can Wodgers pull a wabbit out of the hat this Easter Saturday?

Darth Simian <great_sage_equal_of_heaven_@hotmail.com>: Apr 04 02:35PM +0100

LMFWO :-)
--
We have torn up Marxist materialism and we have disorientated Masonry.
We have thwarted the Satanic machinations of the clandestine Masonic
superstate. Despite its control of the world's press and numerous
international politicians. Spain's struggle is a Crusade; as soldiers of
God we carry with us the evangelism of the world!
His Excellency Generalísimo Don Francisco de Franco y Bahamonde
Salgado-Araujo y Pardo de Andrade
11 September 1945

Rafalution <fake@fakeemail.com>: Apr 03 02:41PM +0100

On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 14:35:54 +0100, Darth Simian
> LMFWO :-)

I have just piss myself laughing!!!

FAF!!!

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Goal! Arsenal 1 - 0 Liverpool. Hector Bellerin, 37 mins

Darth Simian <great_sage_equal_of_heaven_@hotmail.com>: Apr 04 01:25PM +0100

Young Stirling is doing his best to impress his new boss Arsene Wenger.

Give Wodgers time! (We will eventually get it right)

PMSW :-)
--
"The rights and wrongs of Hiroshima are debatable," Telford Taylor, the
chief prosecutor at the Nuremberg trials, once observed, "but I have
never heard a plausible justification of Nagasaki"—which he labelled a
war crime.

Rafalution <fake@fakeemail.com>: Apr 03 02:40PM +0100

On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 13:25:01 +0100, Darth Simian
> Give Wodgers time! (We will eventually get it right)

FAF !!!

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Spiwit of Istanbul? Well maybe not. Emre Can gets a deserved wed card!

Darth Simian <great_sage_equal_of_heaven_@hotmail.com>: Apr 04 02:28PM +0100

Will Wingolet throw another one into the back of the net?
PMSW :-)
--
Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on
what to eat for lunch. Freedom comes from the recognition of certain
rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.

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I need a finger we-tread! Arsenal 3 0 Liverpool. Sanchez, 45 mins

Darth Simian <great_sage_equal_of_heaven_@hotmail.com>: Apr 04 01:33PM +0100

Wodgers guaranteed John Wenry fourth place if he could spend £200
willion of his money!
Oh dear!
FAW :-)
--
In eminenti apostolatus specula was a Papal Bull issued by Pope Clement
XII on 28 April 1738, banning Catholics from becoming Freemasons.
He noted that membership of Masonic Lodges, "spreading far and wide and
daily growing in strength" was open to men of any religion or sect, who
were sworn to secrecy. The logic at the heart of the Bull is expressed
as follows:
'But it is in the nature of crime to betray itself and to show itself by
its attendant clamor. Thus these aforesaid Societies or Conventicles
have caused in the minds of the faithful the greatest suspicion, and all
prudent and upright men have passed the same judgment on them as being
depraved and perverted. For if they were not doing evil they would not
have so great a hatred of the light."

chuck-spears <fishbowl2011@gmail.com>: Apr 04 01:42PM +0100

On 04/04/2015 13:33, Darth Simian wrote:
> prudent and upright men have passed the same judgment on them as being
> depraved and perverted. For if they were not doing evil they would not
> have so great a hatred of the light."

The keeper was at fault for the 2nd and 3rd, a bit like Barthez in his
last season, quite a few were getting past him, that I thought should
have been saved.

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Stirling goes into the Arsenal dwessing woom at half time!

Darth Simian <great_sage_equal_of_heaven_@hotmail.com>: Apr 04 01:42PM +0100

WTW?
Wah wah wah :-)
--
"In order to close the widely open road to iniquities; which might be
committed with impunity and also for other reasons, just and reasonable,
that have come to our knowledge... We have resolved and decreed to
condemn and forbid such Societies, assemblies, reunions, aggregations or
meetings called either Freemasonic or known under some other
denomination. WE CONDEMN AND FORBID THEM BY THIS, OUR PRESENT
CONSTITUTION, WHICH IS TO BE CONSIDERED VALID FOR EVER."
Pope Clement XII, April 28 1738.

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Just pressed send then....Goal! Arsenal 2 - 0 Liverpool. Ozil, 40 mins

Darth Simian <great_sage_equal_of_heaven_@hotmail.com>: Apr 04 01:27PM +0100

WTW are you going to do now Wodgers?
Stevie Galaxy will be loving this. I reckon he got sent off on purpose.

LMFWO :-)
--
"We wish it to be your rule first of all to tear away the mask from
Freemasonry and to let it be seen as it really is" warned Pope Leo XIII
in his monumental encyclical Humanum Genus( 1884). Referring to Masonry
as "this foul plague," Leo XIII urged pastoral sermons warning the
Faithful that Masonry and related secret societies were "seducing men
and enticing them into their ranks" in order to fill them with "the
depravity of their opinions and the wickedness of their acts". Leo XIII
was by no means the first Pope to warn of the evils of Freemasonry. Pope
Clement XII had been the first to do so in 1738, then Benedict XIV, Pius
VI, Leo XII, Pius VII, Pius VIII, Gregory XVI, and Pius IX. In Human
Genus, Leo XIII emphasized the urgency of the earlier warnings and
stated that the Freemasons "are boldly rising up against God Himself.
They are planning the destruction of Holy Church ... and this with the
set purpose of utterly despoiling the nations of Christendom ..."

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Muhammad's Sword

BV BV <bv8bv8bv8@gmail.com>: Apr 04 05:22AM -0700

Muhammad's Sword

Description: A Jewish atheist speaks about the notion that Islam spread by the sword.

Since the days when Roman Emperors threw Christians to the lions, the relations between the emperors and the heads of the church have undergone many changes.

Constantine the Great, who became Emperor in the year 306 - exactly 1700 years ago - encouraged the practice of Christianity in the empire, which included Palestine. Centuries later, the church split into an Eastern (Orthodox) and a Western (Catholic) part. In the West, the Bishop of Rome, who acquired the title of Pope, demanded that the Emperor accept his superiority.

The struggle between the Emperors and the Popes played a central role in European history and divided the peoples. It knew ups and downs. Some Emperors dismissed or expelled a Pope, some Popes dismissed or excommunicated an Emperor. One of the Emperors, Henry IV, "walked to Canossa", standing for three days barefoot in the snow in front of the Pope's castle, until the Pope deigned to annul his excommunication.

But there were times when Emperors and Popes lived in peace with each other. We are witnessing such a period today. Between the present Pope, Benedict XVI, and the present Emperor, George Bush II, there exists a wonderful harmony. Last week's speech by the Pope, which aroused a world-wide storm, went well with Bush's crusade against "Islamofascism", in the context of the "Clash of Civilizations".

In his lecture at a German university, the 265th Pope described what he sees as a huge difference between Christianity and Islam: while Christianity is based on reason, Islam denies it. While Christians see the logic of God's actions, Muslims deny that there is any such logic in the actions of Allah.

As a Jewish atheist, I do not intend to enter the fray of this debate. It is much beyond my humble abilities to understand the logic of the Pope. But I cannot overlook one passage, which concerns me too, as an Israeli living near the fault-line of this "war of civilizations".

In order to prove the lack of reason in Islam, the Pope asserts that the prophet Muhammad ordered his followers to spread their religion by the sword. According to the Pope, that is unreasonable, because faith is born of the soul, not of the body. How can the sword influence the soul?

To support his case, the Pope quoted - of all people - a Byzantine Emperor, who belonged, of course, to the competing Eastern Church. At the end of the 14th century, the Emperor Manuel II Palaeologus told of a debate he had - or so he said (its occurrence is in doubt) - with an unnamed Persian Muslim scholar. In the heat of the argument, the Emperor (according to himself) flung the following words at his adversary:

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached".

These words give rise to three questions: (a) Why did the Emperor say them? (b) Are they true? (c) Why did the present Pope quote them?

WHEN MANUEL II wrote his treatise, he was the head of a dying empire. He assumed power in 1391, when only a few provinces of the once illustrious empire remained. These, too, were already under Turkish threat.

At that point in time, the Ottoman Turks had reached the banks of the Danube. They had conquered Bulgaria and the north of Greece, and had twice defeated relieving armies sent by Europe to save the Eastern Empire. On May 29, 1453, only a few years after Manuel's death, his capital, Constantinople (the present Istanbul) fell to the Turks, putting an end to the Empire that had lasted for more than a thousand years.

During his reign, Manuel made the rounds of the capitals of Europe in an attempt to drum up support. He promised to reunite the church. There is no doubt that he wrote his religious treatise in order to incite the Christian countries against the Turks and convince them to start a new crusade. The aim was practical, theology was serving politics.

In this sense, the quote serves exactly the requirements of the present Emperor, George Bush II. He, too, wants to unite the Christian world against the mainly Muslim "Axis of Evil". Moreover, the Turks are again knocking on the doors of Europe, this time peacefully. It is well known that the Pope supports the forces that object to the entry of Turkey into the European Union.

Is there any truth in Manuel's argument

The pope himself threw in a word of caution. As a serious and renowned theologian, he could not afford to falsify written texts. Therefore, he admitted that the Quran specifically forbade the spreading of the faith by force. He quoted the second Sura, verse 256 (strangely fallible, for a pope, he meant verse 257) which says:

"There must be no coercion in matters of faith."

How can one ignore such an unequivocal statement? The Pope simply argues that this commandment was laid down by the prophet when he was at the beginning of his career, still weak and powerless, but that later on he ordered the use of the sword in the service of the faith. Such an order does not exist in the Quran. True, Muhammad called for the use of the sword in his war against opposing tribes - Christian, Jewish and others - in Arabia, when he was building his state. But that was a political act, not a religious one; basically a fight for territory, not for the spreading of the faith.

Jesus said: "You will recognize them by their fruits." The treatment of other religions by Islam must be judged by a simple test: How did the Muslim rulers behave for more than a thousand years, when they had the power to "spread the faith by the sword"?

Well, they just did not.

For many centuries, the Muslims ruled Greece. Did the Greeks become Muslims? Did anyone even try to Islamize them? On the contrary, Christian Greeks held the highest positions in the Ottoman administration. The Bulgarians, Serbs, Romanians, Hungarians and other European nations lived at one time or another under Ottoman rule and clung to their Christian faith. Nobody compelled them to become Muslims and all of them remained devoutly Christian.

True, the Albanians did convert to Islam, and so did the Bosniaks. But nobody argues that they did this under duress. They adopted Islam in order to become favorites of the government and enjoy the fruits.

In 1099, the Crusaders conquered Jerusalem and massacred its Muslim and Jewish inhabitants indiscriminately, in the name of the gentle Jesus. At that time, 400 years into the occupation of Palestine by the Muslims, Christians were still the majority in the country. Throughout this long period, no effort was made to impose Islam on them. Only after the expulsion of the Crusaders from the country, did the majority of the inhabitants start to adopt the Arabic language and the Muslim faith - and they were the forefathers of most of today's Palestinians.

There is no evidence whatsoever of any attempt to impose Islam on the Jews. As is well known, under Muslim rule the Jews of Spain enjoyed a bloom the like of which the Jews did not enjoy anywhere else until almost our time. Poets like Yehuda Halevy wrote in Arabic, as did the great Maimonides. In Muslim Spain, Jews were ministers, poets, scientists. In Muslim Toledo, Christian, Jewish and Muslim scholars worked together and translated the ancient Greek philosophical and scientific texts. That was, indeed, the Golden Age. How would this have been possible, had the Prophet decreed the "spreading of the faith by the sword"?

What happened afterwards is even more telling. When the Catholics re-conquered Spain from the Muslims, they instituted a reign of religious terror. The Jews and the Muslims were presented with a cruel choice: to become Christians, to be massacred or to leave. And where did the hundreds of thousand of Jews, who refused to abandon their faith, escape? Almost all of them were received with open arms in the Muslim countries. The Sephardi ("Spanish") Jews settled all over the Muslim world, from Morocco in the west to Iraq in the east, from Bulgaria (then part of the Ottoman Empire) in the north to Sudan in the south. Nowhere were they persecuted. They knew nothing like the tortures of the Inquisition, the flames of the auto-da-fe, the pogroms, the terrible mass-expulsions that took place in almost all Christian countries, up to the Holocaust.

Why? Because Islam expressly prohibited any persecution of the "peoples of the book"[1]. In Islamic society, a special place was reserved for Jews and Christians. They did not enjoy completely equal rights, but almost. They had to pay a special poll-tax, but were exempted from military service - a trade-off that was quite welcome to many Jews. It has been said that Muslim rulers frowned upon any attempt to convert Jews to Islam even by gentle persuasion - because it entailed the loss of taxes[2].

Every honest Jew who knows the history of his people cannot but feel a deep sense of gratitude to Islam, which has protected the Jews for fifty generations, while the Christian world persecuted the Jews and tried many times "by the sword" to get them to abandon their faith.

The story about "spreading the faith by the sword" is an evil legend, one of the myths that grew up in Europe during the great wars against the Muslims - the reconquista of Spain by the Christians, the Crusades and the repulsion of the Turks, who almost conquered Vienna. I suspect that the German Pope, too, honestly believes in these fables. That means that the leader of the Catholic world, who is a Christian theologian in his own right, did not make the effort to study the history of other religions.

Why did he utter these words in public? And why now?

There is no escape from viewing them against the background of the new Crusade of Bush and his evangelist supporters, with his slogans of "Islamofascism" and the "Global War on Terrorism" - when "terrorism" has become a synonym for Muslims. For Bush's handlers, this is a cynical attempt to justify the domination of the world's oil resources. Not for the first time in history, a religious robe is spread to cover the nakedness of economic interests; not for the first time, a robbers' expedition becomes a Crusade.

The speech of the Pope blends into this effort. Who can foretell the dire consequences

http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/513/viewall/

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Even Commie SNP head bitch Sturgeon would vote Tory instead of for Red Ed

Darth Simian <great_sage_equal_of_heaven_@hotmail.com>: Apr 04 01:15PM +0100

'The hand that wields the knife shall never wear the crown.'
No one trusts you Red Ed. You stabbed your own brother in the back,
just like Michael Corleone did to Fredo. I wonder if Labour will stick
with Red Ed when he gets annihilated on May 7th? The Unions like him,
and they stuck with the Welsh Windbag Kinnock for three general
elections before realising he was unelectable.

PMSW :-)
--
"They gathered, organized and armed the dirtiest, filthiest and most
criminal so-called humans from different parts of the world more than 60
years ago under a false and void excuse and through making fake news and
stories. They occupied the Palestinian territories and made the
Palestinian nation homeless through their military and propaganda supports"
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, 6th President of Iran.

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Whatever Happened to Ron

RED DEVIL <Redevil00x@charter.net>: Apr 03 05:34PM -0400

On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 08:41:15 -0700 (PDT), Lawrence Jenkins

>> As opposed to the Islington Upper Middle class Elite who run the Labour
>> party and who have never done a days works in their lives?

>The so called 'deep thinkers' on the left all seem to come from privileged
middle-class backgrounds. Look at the Workers Revolutionary Party.
there wasn't a worker to be had, just gays and thespians. I met the
Redgraves and saw them in action quite a few times and I can honestly
say it was like they were acting. They gave lots of 'Workers Press'
time to their father crowing what a revolutionary he was. In essence
he was a sexual pervert who was more interested in whip lines than
picket lines.

Apart from all that...

How do you think we'll do against Villa?

The RED DEVIL

Lawrence Jenkins <lawrence13@sky.com>: Apr 03 02:48PM -0700

On Friday, 3 April 2015 22:34:33 UTC+1, RED DEVIL wrote:

> The RED DEVIL

Surely a win.

Neal <nealr2000@gmail.com>: Apr 03 03:11PM -0700

One would think so, but I'm sure Villa"s strategy will be to play for a draw.

Lawrence Jenkins <lawrence13@sky.com>: Apr 03 03:23PM -0700

On Friday, 3 April 2015 23:11:57 UTC+1, Neal wrote:
> One would think so, but I'm sure Villa"s strategy will be to play for a draw.

Don't worry Neal from your hammock under a sub tropical sun, we will win very big

Neal <nealr2000@gmail.com>: Apr 03 04:00PM -0700

That's funny, being as I'm in my hammock as I read that. I won't have time to watch on TV as I'll be on the road to the airport tomorrow for my flight home.

RED DEVIL <Redevil00x@charter.net>: Apr 03 10:47PM -0400

On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 15:11:56 -0700 (PDT), Neal <nealr2000@gmail.com>
wrote:

>One would think so, but I'm sure Villa"s strategy will be to play for a draw.

Probably going to see two buses parked

The RED DEVIL

RED DEVIL <Redevil00x@charter.net>: Apr 03 10:49PM -0400

On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 15:23:34 -0700 (PDT), Lawrence Jenkins

>On Friday, 3 April 2015 23:11:57 UTC+1, Neal wrote:
>> One would think so, but I'm sure Villa"s strategy will be to play for a draw.

>Don't worry Neal from your hammock under a sub tropical sun, we will win very big

Arsenal and Kopites draw 0-0 and we take over third place

The RED DEVIL

Darth Simian <great_sage_equal_of_heaven_@hotmail.com>: Apr 04 05:52AM +0100

On 02/04/2015 10:09, Ron wrote:

> I am trying to avoid the election but i have noticed the tory press
> going into overdrive, the thing is they will still be rich and powerful
> whoever gets in
How is the second kitchen coming on Red Ron? Are you having a bacon
butty for breakfast?
LMFWO :-)
--
"The Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or
driven from the State if necessary." Governor Lilburn Boggs of Missouri,
1838.

Darth Simian <great_sage_equal_of_heaven_@hotmail.com>: Apr 04 05:54AM +0100

On 04/04/2015 03:47, RED DEVIL wrote:

>> One would think so, but I'm sure Villa"s strategy will be to play for a draw.

> Probably going to see two buses parked

> The RED DEVIL

One bus for whites, one for blacks, like the good old days of racial
segregation in the deep south hey DRIVEL?
--
"We wish it to be your rule first of all to tear away the mask from
Freemasonry and to let it be seen as it really is" warned Pope Leo XIII
in his monumental encyclical Humanum Genus( 1884). Referring to Masonry
as "this foul plague," Leo XIII urged pastoral sermons warning the
Faithful that Masonry and related secret societies were "seducing men
and enticing them into their ranks" in order to fill them with "the
depravity of their opinions and the wickedness of their acts". Leo XIII
was by no means the first Pope to warn of the evils of Freemasonry. Pope
Clement XII had been the first to do so in 1738, then Benedict XIV, Pius
VI, Leo XII, Pius VII, Pius VIII, Gregory XVI, and Pius IX. In Human
Genus, Leo XIII emphasized the urgency of the earlier warnings and
stated that the Freemasons "are boldly rising up against God Himself.
They are planning the destruction of Holy Church ... and this with the
set purpose of utterly despoiling the nations of Christendom ..."

chuck-spears <fishbowl2011@gmail.com>: Apr 04 11:27AM +0100

On 04/04/2015 03:49, RED DEVIL wrote:

> Arsenal and Kopites draw 0-0 and we take over third place

> The RED DEVIL

I'm hoping for an Arsenal win, consolidating fourth place should be a
higher priority than getting third. United have games against the top
three coming up, if they have higher ambitions that's the ones they need
to win. They could also go wrong, so the bigger the gap over the rest
the better.

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