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Conservatives believe you should SUFFER instead of taking the good way out.. - 3 Updates
Key Figures In CIA-Crack Cocaine Scandal Begin To Come Forward - 1 Update
ANother day that is an attack on Christianity.. - 4 Updates
Colin Powell ATTACKS the GOP's 'Dark Vein' of Intolerance - 1 Update
hey robby dominois said theyd take a hoiur and a half to deliver - 1 Update
MRS HWIGGINS SEZ-UNIDENTIFIED FLYING TUDBALL - 1 Update
does unifarva like sausage links or patties better? - 1 Update
does unifarva remember when pepsi had a product called pepsi free? - 1 Update
is unifarva a door to door salesman? - 1 Update
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has unifarva ever pissed razorblades? - 1 Update
Obama claims he didn't know about Clinton email server until the news broadcasts ... - 4 Updates
So riddle me this, RSPWCC [#Selma] - 1 Update
Florida's Environmental Strategy: Banning The Phrase "Climate Change" - 1 Update
Religious right HERO Theodore Shoebat Says ISIS Is A Gay Cult And 'Fags' Want To Molest Children - 1 Update
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Conservatives believe you should SUFFER instead of taking the good way out..
Trijcomm <trijcomm@yahoo.com>: Mar 08 06:13PM -0700
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 6:37:21 PM UTC-5, me wrote:
> > > or, they are finally free of pain
> > No, they are dead.
> which would also include free of pain
No, you are dead. That's all you are. Dead. Gone. Period.
me <mooseheadjack13@gmail.com>: Mar 08 06:21PM -0700
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:13:48 PM UTC-4, Trijcomm wrote:
> > > No, they are dead.
> > which would also include free of pain
> No, you are dead. That's all you are. Dead. Gone. Period.
and thus NO LONGER IN PAIN
Trijcomm <trijcomm@yahoo.com>: Mar 08 07:43PM -0700
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:21:17 PM UTC-5, me wrote:
> > > which would also include free of pain
> > No, you are dead. That's all you are. Dead. Gone. Period.
> and thus NO LONGER IN PAIN
Fool. That may be the right thing to say about sick dogs and cats and pets, but we are talking about human beings. If this is the attitude you take, then you are saying humans are on the same level as pets. Is THAT what you are saying? Probably so.
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Key Figures In CIA-Crack Cocaine Scandal Begin To Come Forward
"Karolina Dean...Where the HELL is my monkey?" <platniumtangent@gmail.com>: Mar 08 07:43PM -0700
With the public in the U.S. and Latin America becoming increasingly skeptical of the war on drugs, key figures in a scandal that once rocked the Central Intelligence Agency are coming forward to tell their stories in a new documentary and in a series of interviews with The Huffington Post.
More than 18 years have passed since Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Gary Webb stunned the world with his "Dark Alliance" newspaper series investigating the connections between the CIA, a crack cocaine explosion in the predominantly African-American neighborhoods of South Los Angeles, and the Nicaraguan Contra fighters -- scandalous implications that outraged LA's black community, severely damaged the intelligence agency's reputation and launched a number of federal investigations.
It did not end well for Webb, however. Major media, led by The New York Times, Washington Post and Los Angeles Times, worked to discredit his story. Under intense pressure, Webb's top editor abandoned him. Webb was drummed out of journalism. One LA Times reporter recently apologized for his leading role in the assault on Webb, but it came too late. Webb died in 2004 from an apparent suicide. Obituaries referred to his investigation as "discredited."
Now, Webb's bombshell expose is being explored anew in a documentary, "Freeway: Crack in the System," directed by Marc Levin, which tells the story of "Freeway" Rick Ross, who created a crack empire in LA during the 1980s and is a key figure in Webb's "Dark Alliance" narrative. The documentary is being released after the major motion picture "Kill The Messenger," which features Jeremy Renner in the role of Webb and hits theaters on Friday.
Webb's investigation was published in the summer of 1996 in the San Jose Mercury News. In it, he reported that a drug ring that sold millions of dollars worth of cocaine in Los Angeles was funneling its profits to the CIA's army in Nicaragua, known as the Contras.
Webb's original anonymous source for his series was Coral Baca, a confidante of Nicaraguan dealer Rafael Cornejo. Baca, Ross and members of his "Freeway boys" crew; cocaine importer and distributor Danilo Blandon; and LA Sheriff's Deputy Robert Juarez all were interviewed for Levin's film.
The dual release of the feature film and the documentary, along with the willingness of long-hesitant sources to come forward, suggests that Webb may have the last word after all.
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Webb's entry point into the sordid tale of corruption was through Baca, a ghostlike figure in the Contra-cocaine narrative who has given precious few interviews over the decades. Her name was revealed in Webb's 1998 book on the scandal, but was removed at her request in the paperback edition. Levin connected HuffPost with Baca and she agreed to an interview at a cafe in San Francisco. She said that she and Webb didn't speak for years after he revealed her name, in betrayal of the conditions under which they spoke. He eventually apologized, said Baca, who is played by Paz Vega in "Kill The Messenger."
The major media that worked to undermine Webb's investigation acknowledged that Blandon was a major drug-runner as well as a Contra supporter, and that Ross was a leading distributor. But those reports questioned how much drug money Blandon and his boss Norwin Meneses turned over to the Contras, and whether the Contras were aware of the source of the funds.
During her interview with HuffPost, Baca recounted meeting Contra leader Adolfo Calero multiple times in the 1980s at Contra fundraisers in the San Francisco Bay Area. He would personally pick up duffel bags full of drug money, she said, which it was her job to count for Cornejo. There was no question, she said, that Calero knew precisely how the money had been earned. Meneses' nickname, after all, was El Rey De Las Drogas -- The King of Drugs.
"If he was stupid and had a lobotomy," he might not have known it was drug money, Baca said. "He knew exactly what it was. He didn't care. He was there to fund the Contras, period." (Baca made a similar charge confidentially to the Department of Justice for its 1997 review of Webb's allegations, as well as further allegations the investigators rejected.)
Indeed, though the mainstream media at the time worked to poke holes in Webb's findings, believing that the Contra operation was not involved with drug-running takes an enormous suspension of disbelief. Even before Webb's series was published, numerous government investigations and news reports had linked America's support for the Nicaraguan rebels with drug trafficking.
After The Associated Press reported on these connections in 1985, for example, more than a decade before Webb, then-Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) launched a congressional investigation. In 1989, Kerry released a detailed report claiming that not only was there "considerable evidence" linking the Contra effort to trafficking of drugs and weapons, but that the U.S. government knew about it.
According to the report, many of the pilots ferrying weapons and supplies south for the CIA were known to have backgrounds in drug trafficking. Kerry's investigation cited SETCO Aviation, the company the U.S. had contracted to handle many of the flights, as an example of CIA complicity in the drug trade. According to a 1983 Customs Service report, SETCO was "headed by Juan Ramon Matta Ballesteros, a class I DEA violator."
Two years before the Iran-Contra scandal would begin to bubble up in the Reagan White House, pilot William Robert "Tosh" Plumlee revealed to then-Sen. Gary Hart (D-Colo.) that planes would routinely transport cocaine back to the U.S. after dropping off arms for the Nicaraguan rebels. Plumlee has since spoken in detail about the flights in media interviews.
"In March, 1983, Plumlee contacted my Denver Senate Office and ... raised several issues including that covert U.S. intelligence agencies were directly involved in the smuggling and distribution of drugs to raise funds for covert military operations against the government of Nicaragua," a copy of a 1991 letter from Hart to Kerry reads. (Hart told HuffPost he recalls receiving Plumlee's letter and finding his allegations worthy of follow-up.)
Plumlee flew weapons into Latin America for decades for the CIA. When the Contra revolution took off in the 1980s, Plumlee says he continued to transport arms south for the spy agency and bring cocaine back with him, with the blessing of the U.S. government.
The Calero transactions Baca says she witnessed would have been no surprise to the Reagan White House. On April 15, 1985, around the time Baca says she saw Calero accepting bags of cash, Oliver North, the White House National Security Counsel official in charge of the Contra operation, was notified in a memo that Calero's deputies were involved in the drug business. Robert Owen, North's top staffer in Central America, warned that Jose Robelo had "potential involvement with drug-running and the sale of goods provided by the [U.S. government]" and that Sebastian Gonzalez was "now involved in drug-running out of Panama."
North's own diary, originally uncovered by the National Security Archive, is a rich source of evidence as well. "Honduran DC-6 which is being used for runs out of New Orleans is probably being used for drug runs into the U.S.," reads an entry for Aug. 9, 1985, reflecting a conversation North had with Owen about Mario Calero, Adolfo's brother.
An entry from July 12, 1985 relates that "14 million to finance [an arms depot] came from drugs" and another references a trip to Bolivia to pick up "paste." (Paste is slang term for a crude cocaine derivative product comprised of coca leaves grown in the Andes as well as processing chemicals used during the cocaine manufacturing process.)
Celerino Castillo, a top DEA agent in El Salvador, investigated the Contras' drug-running in the 1980s and repeatedly warned superiors, according to a Justice Department investigation into the matter. Castillo "believes that North and the Contras' resupply operation at Ilopango were running drugs for the Contras," Mike Foster, an FBI agent who worked for the Iran-Contra independent counsel Lawrence Walsh, reported in 1991 after meeting with Castillo, who later wrote the book Powderburns about his efforts to expose the drug-running.
* * * * *
Webb's investigation sent the CIA into a panic. A recently declassified article titled "Managing A Nightmare: CIA Public Affairs and the Drug Conspiracy Story," from the agency's internal journal, "Studies In Intelligence," shows that the spy agency was reeling in the weeks that followed.
"The charges could hardly be worse," the article opens. "A widely read newspaper series leads many Americans to believe CIA is guilty of at least complicity, if not conspiracy, in the outbreak of crack cocaine in America's inner cities. In more extreme versions of the story circulating on talk radio and the Internet, the Agency was the instrument of a consistent strategy by the US Government to destroy the black community and to keep black Americans from advancing. Denunciations of CIA -- reminiscent of the 1970s -- abound. Investigations are demanded and initiated. The Congress gets involved."
The emergence of Webb's story "posed a genuine public relations crisis for the Agency," writes the CIA Directorate of Intelligence staffer, whose name is redacted.
In December 1997, CIA sources helped advance that narrative, telling reporters that an internal inspector general report sparked by Webb's investigation had exonerated the agency.
Yet the report itself, quietly released several weeks later, was actually deeply damaging to the CIA.
"In 1984, CIA received allegations that five individuals associated with the Democratic Revolutionary Alliance (ARDE)/Sandino Revolutionary Front (FRS) were engaged in a drug trafficking conspiracy with a known narcotics trafficker, Jorge Morales," the report found. "CIA broke off contact with ARDE in October 1984, but continued to have contact through 1986-87 with four of the individuals involved with Morales."
It also found that in October 1982, an immigration officer reported that, according to an informant in the Nicaraguan exile community in the Bay Area, "there are indications of links between [a specific U.S.-based religious organization] and two Nicaraguan counter-revolutionary groups. These links involve an exchange in [the United States] of narcotics for arms, which then are shipped to Nicaragua. A meeting on this matter is scheduled to be held in Costa Rica 'within one month.' Two names the informant has associated with this matter are Bergman Arguello, a UDN member and exile living in San Francisco, and Chicano Cardenal, resident of Nicaragua."
The inspector general is clear that in some cases "CIA knowledge of allegations or information indicating that organizations or individuals had been involved in drug trafficking did not deter their use by CIA." In other cases, "CIA did not act to verify drug trafficking allegations or information even when it had the opportunity to do so."
"Let me be frank about what we are finding," the CIA's inspector general, Frederick Hitz, said in congressional testimony in March 1998. "There are instances where CIA did not, in an expeditious or consistent fashion, cut off relationships with individuals supporting the Contra program who were alleged to have engaged in drug trafficking activity or take action to resolve the allegations."
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One of the keys to Webb's story was testimony from Danilo Blandon, who the Department of Justice once described as one of the most significant Nicaraguan drug importers in the 1980s.
"You were running the LA operation, is that correct?" Blandon, who was serving as a government witness in the 1990s, was asked by Alan Fenster, attorney representing Rick Ross, in 1996.
"Yes. But remember, we were running, just -- whatever we were running in LA, it goes, the profit, it was going to the Contra revolution," Blandon said.
Levin, the documentary filmmaker, tracked down Blandon in Managua.
"Gary Webb tried to find me, Congresswoman Maxine Waters tried to find me, Oliver Stone tried to find me. You found me," Blandon told Levin, according to notes from the interview the director provided to HuffPost.
Waters, a congresswoman from Los Angeles, had followed Webb's investigation with one of her own.
In the interview notes with filmmaker Levin, Blandon confirms his support of the Contras and his role in drug trafficking, but downplays his significance. "The big lie is that we started it all -- the crack epidemic -- we were just a small part. There were the Torres [brothers], the Colombians, and others," he says. "We were a little marble, pebble, rock and [people are] acting like we're big boulder."
kill
The Managua lumberyard where Levin tracked down Blandon.
Webb's series connected the Contras' drug-running directly to the growth of crack in the U.S., and it was this connection that faced the most pushback from critics. While Blandon may have been operating on behalf of the Contras early in his career, they charged, he later broke off on his own. But an October 1986 arrest warrant for Blandon indicates that the LA County Sheriff's Department at the time had other information.
"Blandon is in charge of a sophisticated cocaine smuggling and distribution organization operating in southern California," the warrant reads, according to Webb's orginal report. "The monies gained through the sales of cocaine are transported to Florida and laundered through Orlando Murillo who is a high-ranking officer in a chain of banks in Florida. ... From this bank the monies are filtered to the Contra rebels to buy arms in the war in Nicaragua."
Blandon's number-one client was "Freeway" Rick Ross, whose name has since been usurped by the rapper William Leonard Roberts, better known by his stage name "Rick Ross" (an indignity that plays a major role in the film). The original Ross, who was arrested in 1995 and freed from prison in 2009, told Webb in "Dark Alliance" that the prices and quantity Blandon was offering transformed him from a small-time dealer into what prosecutors would later describe as the most significant crack cocaine merchant in Los Angeles, if not the country.
His empire -- once dubbed the "Walmart" of crack cocaine -- expanded east from LA to major cities throughout the Midwest before he was eventually taken down during a DEA sting his old supplier and friend Blandon helped set up.
Levin's film not only explores the corrupt foundations of the drug war itself, but also calls into question the draconian jail sentences the U.S. justice system meted out to a mostly minority population, while the country's own foreign policy abetted the drug trade.
"I knew that these laws were a mistake when we were writing them," says Eric Sterling, who was counsel to the U.S. House Judiciary Committee in the 1980s and a key contributor to the passage of mandatory-minimum sentencing laws, in the documentary.
In 1980, there were roughly 40,000 drug offenders in U.S. prisons, according to research from The Sentencing Project, a prison sentencing reform group. By 2011, the number of drug offenders serving prison sentences ballooned to more than 500,000 -- most of whom are not high-level operators and are without prior criminal records.
"There is no question that there are tens of thousands of black people in prison serving sentences that are decades excessive," Sterling says. "Their families have been destroyed because of laws I played a central role in writing."
The height of the drug war in the 1980s also saw the beginning of the militarization of local law enforcement, the tentacles of which are seen to this day, most recently in Ferguson, Missouri.
In an interview with The Huffington Post, former LA County Sheriff's Deputy Robert
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ANother day that is an attack on Christianity..
Trijcomm <trijcomm@yahoo.com>: Mar 08 06:12PM -0700
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 6:53:44 PM UTC-5, me wrote:
> > > http://www.internationalwomensday.com/
> > Read Gen. 1:27 and Gal.3:28 and then apologize for your libelous and inaccurate statement. It amazes me how stupid people make blanket and incorrect statements about Christianity and have never read The Book themselves.
> ok, so the first one says god created women. That's all it says.
Wrong. Read it again. That's not all it says. And you are ignoring the stuff about male and female. So don't give this garbage again about women being property. Got it? Good.
me <mooseheadjack13@gmail.com>: Mar 08 06:22PM -0700
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:13:01 PM UTC-4, Trijcomm wrote:
> > > Read Gen. 1:27 and Gal.3:28 and then apologize for your libelous and inaccurate statement. It amazes me how stupid people make blanket and incorrect statements about Christianity and have never read The Book themselves.
> > ok, so the first one says god created women. That's all it says.
> Wrong. Read it again. That's not all it says. And you are ignoring the stuff about male and female. So don't give this garbage again about women being property. Got it? Good.
try again skippy, I looked up the quotes from your silly book, and that's EXACTLY what it said. There was junk after that one passage, but the one you cited said god created women. That was it.
me <mooseheadjack13@gmail.com>: Mar 08 06:24PM -0700
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:22:50 PM UTC-4, me wrote:
> > > ok, so the first one says god created women. That's all it says.
> > Wrong. Read it again. That's not all it says. And you are ignoring the stuff about male and female. So don't give this garbage again about women being property. Got it? Good.
> try again skippy, I looked up the quotes from your silly book, and that's EXACTLY what it said. There was junk after that one passage, but the one you cited said god created women. That was it.
"27God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them."
Trijcomm <trijcomm@yahoo.com>: Mar 08 07:42PM -0700
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:22:50 PM UTC-5, me wrote:
> > > ok, so the first one says god created women. That's all it says.
> > Wrong. Read it again. That's not all it says. And you are ignoring the stuff about male and female. So don't give this garbage again about women being property. Got it? Good.
> try again skippy, I looked up the quotes from your silly book, and that's EXACTLY what it said. There was junk after that one passage, but the one you cited said god created women. That was it.
You obviously have reading comprehension problems. Really. It says much, much more than that. Obviously you don't want to see it because it doesn't fit with your agenda. That is your problem here.
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Colin Powell ATTACKS the GOP's 'Dark Vein' of Intolerance
"Karolina Dean...Where the HELL is my monkey?" <platniumtangent@gmail.com>: Mar 08 07:34PM -0700
No wonder Bush/Cheney threw him under the bus over Iraq...
http://news.yahoo.com/colin-powell-still-sees-dark-vein-intolerance-gop-165315681.html
Speaking on the day following the 50-year anniversary of "Bloody Sunday" in Selma, Alabama, the first African-American Secretary of State Colin Powell said he still sees a "dark vein" of intolerance in the Republican Party, echoing comments that he made in 2013.
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"I still see it. I still see it in the Republican Party and I still see it in other parts of our country. You don't have to be a Republican to be touched by this dark vein," Powell told ABC's George Stephanopoulos Sunday on "This Week."
"We've come a long way, but there's a long way to go. And we have to change the hearts and minds of Americans. And I see progress, especially in the younger generation," Powell added.
Fifty Years After 'Bloody Sunday,' Obama Calls Selma a Place Where Meaning of America Was Defined
Selma Marches, Bloody Sunday Mark 50th Anniversary
Thousands Gather for 50th Anniversary of 'Bloody Sunday'
President Obama, along with former President George W. Bush, was in Selma Saturday to mark the anniversary of the seminal moment in the civil rights movement. They were joined by Rep. John Lewis, D-Georgia, who was brutally beaten during the march out of Selma that day in 1965.
"What that bloody Sunday event did for the nation was to hold up a mirror in front of all Americans and said, 'Look, this is what's going on in this country. This cannot continue,'" Powell said.
Powell also echoed one of the theme's of Obama's speech in Selma, noting that while progress has been made on race relations, the "march is not yet over."
"We've made enormous progress. If we hadn't made progress, [President Obama] wouldn't have been standing there, Eric Holder wouldn't have been with him and I wouldn't be here right now," Powell said.
"But we still now have hurdles that we have to get over," Powell added, noting the battle in some states over voter identification laws.
The former secretary of state also weighed in on the Justice Department report released this week that found systemic discrimination against African-Americans by the police department in Ferguson, Missouri.
Powell said he was "shocked" by the report, but was not taken completely off guard.
"I was shocked but not that surprised, frankly, George. I know these things have existed in other parts of our country. This shouldn't have been that great a surprise to any of us. But it's not throughout the country," Powell said.
During the interview on "This Week," Powell declined to comment directly on the controversy that has engulfed former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton following revelations she used a private email account while she headed the State Department.
"I can't speak to Mrs. Clinton and what she should do now. That would be inappropriate," said Powell, who helped modernize the State Department through new computers and early use of e-mail during his time as secretary of state.
"In order to change the culture, to change the brainware, as I call it, I started using it in order to get everybody to use it, so we could be a 21st century institution and not a 19th century," Powell said of his own e-mail practices. "But I retained none of those e-mails and we are working with the State Department to see if there's anything else they want to discuss with me about those e-mails."
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hey robby dominois said theyd take a hoiur and a half to deliver
"SPAZZCATAZ." <unifarva4@gmail.com>: Mar 08 06:06PM -0700
On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 11:54:58 PM UTC-5, robert stickler wrote:
> > > thats it? i'd be hungry still.
> > yeh so was i
> next time, order more food!
cramped for money
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MRS HWIGGINS SEZ-UNIDENTIFIED FLYING TUDBALL
The Brunei Bindlestiff <unifarva@gmail.com>: Mar 08 06:02PM -0700
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:36:02 PM UTC-4, robert wrote:
> > > what the heck is this crap?
> > DHUT UP YOU FUCKING ROBBY!
> you talking to me like that?
ehy yes old ffriend
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does unifarva like sausage links or patties better?
The Brunei Bindlestiff <unifarva@gmail.com>: Mar 08 06:01PM -0700
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:36:14 PM UTC-4, robert wrote:
> > > the links are better.
> > no aint
> why do you say that?
coz
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does unifarva remember when pepsi had a product called pepsi free?
The Brunei Bindlestiff <unifarva@gmail.com>: Mar 08 06:01PM -0700
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:36:51 PM UTC-4, robert wrote:
> > > it isnt named the same anymore.
> > yes is
> no it darn well isnt!
yes is
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is unifarva a door to door salesman?
The Brunei Bindlestiff <unifarva@gmail.com>: Mar 08 06:00PM -0700
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:37:05 PM UTC-4, robert wrote:
> > > i love the monkeys!
> > yes yse yes!!!!!!!!!!
> how come they never put out any new songs?
they did in 86
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F
The Brunei Bindlestiff <unifarva@gmail.com>: Mar 08 05:59PM -0700
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:37:46 PM UTC-4, robert wrote:
> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 7:59:13 PM UTC-4, SPAZZCATAZ. wrote:
> > FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> what?
you readme
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S
The Brunei Bindlestiff <unifarva@gmail.com>: Mar 08 05:59PM -0700
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:38:07 PM UTC-4, robert wrote:
> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 7:58:17 PM UTC-4, SPAZZCATAZ. wrote:
> > SHIT!
> whats with all of this gratuitous cussing?
coz
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has unifarva ever pissed razorblades?
The Brunei Bindlestiff <unifarva@gmail.com>: Mar 08 05:58PM -0700
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:38:21 PM UTC-4, robert wrote:
> > > thats gross.
> > GODDAMN THE MOTHERFUCK IT!
> knock off the damn cussing or else!
ELSE YOUR FUCKING ASS
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Obama claims he didn't know about Clinton email server until the news broadcasts ...
me <mooseheadjack13@gmail.com>: Mar 08 03:48PM -0700
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 6:47:56 PM UTC-4, Trijcomm wrote:
> > > super dictator
> > Except when he's woefully ignorant of course.
> So says the bright guy who claims the only alternative the legislative branch has to a president who takes on dictatorial precedence is impeachment.
you still don't know what dictator means
Trijcomm <trijcomm@yahoo.com>: Mar 08 03:49PM -0700
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 5:06:39 PM UTC-5, Freezer wrote:
> > Yet another thing to add to the list of things Obama claims he
> > didn't know about until Rachel Maddow told him.
> And why would he notice what email server Hillary was using?
Boy that was a stupid comment seeing that Lanny Davis said that "thousands" knew about this email but apparently her boss and the president of the US didn't. Yeah, right. Plus, try this on for size.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/hillary-clinton-emails-delays-115824.html
Trijcomm <trijcomm@yahoo.com>: Mar 08 04:00PM -0700
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 5:48:44 PM UTC-5, me wrote:
> > > Except when he's woefully ignorant of course.
> > So says the bright guy who claims the only alternative the legislative branch has to a president who takes on dictatorial precedence is impeachment.
> you still don't know what dictator means
You obviously don't and that would be because you put too much crap into your system.
me <mooseheadjack13@gmail.com>: Mar 08 04:10PM -0700
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 7:00:25 PM UTC-4, Trijcomm wrote:
> > > So says the bright guy who claims the only alternative the legislative branch has to a president who takes on dictatorial precedence is impeachment.
> > you still don't know what dictator means
> You obviously don't and that would be because you put too much crap into your system.
wow good one Skippy! You just reinforce the notion that you are a knuckle-dragging moron. You are the one that keeps using dictator wrong, not me. I believe you are familiar with google? Perhaps you should use it.
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So riddle me this, RSPWCC [#Selma]
Trijcomm <trijcomm@yahoo.com>: Mar 08 03:57PM -0700
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 5:06:01 PM UTC-5, Freezer wrote:
> > What the heck are you talking about? You call George and Laura
> > Bush "lesser knowns?"
> * re-adds "reading comprehension" on its own page *
Standing by previous statement after rereading your riddle me.
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Florida's Environmental Strategy: Banning The Phrase "Climate Change"
"Karolina Dean...Where the HELL is my monkey?" <platniumtangent@gmail.com>: Mar 08 03:35PM -0700
I wonder how this will affect military bases in Florida, as the DOD is taking a proactive stance on understanding climate change as it affects national security and how it will affect warfare in future. Do they have to shut up? Or because they are the military they follow a different set of rules?
The devastating effects of rising sea levels are well-documented in Florida, but officials in the state's Department of Environmental Protection are ordered against using the terms "climate change," "global warming," or "sustainability" in any official communications or documents.
This impressively detailed report by the Florida Center for Investigative Reporting cites records as well as past DEP employees, consultants, and volunteers.
"We were told not to use the terms 'climate change,' 'global warming' or 'sustainability,' " said Christopher Byrd, an attorney with the DEP's Office of General Counsel in Tallahassee from 2008 to 2013. "That message was communicated to me and my colleagues by our superiors in the Office of General Counsel."
Kristina Trotta, another former DEP employee who worked in Miami, said her supervisor told her not to use the terms "climate change" and "global warming" in a 2014 staff meeting.
"We were told that we were not allowed to discuss anything that was not a true fact," she said.
The unofficial (it's nowhere in writing) policy came about in 2011, right around the time Florida Governor Rick Scott, who doesn't believe human activity is the cause of climate change, took office. Though neither of the DEP heads that have served under Scott agreed to comment, and both the governor's spokesperson and the DEP's press secretary insisted "there's no policy on this," the FCIR report is overflowing with damning testimonies.
One former DEP employee who worked in Tallahassee during Scott's first term in office, and asked not to be identified because of an ongoing business relationship with the department, said staffers were warned that using the terms in reports would bring unwanted attention to their projects.
"We were dealing with the effects and economic impact of climate change, and yet we can't reference it," the former employee said.
Why deny climate change? As the article points out, things like carbon taxes and alternate energy sources "could be costly to established industry."
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like Governor Scott, who was re-elected in November, is going to change his outlook on the matter:
[Last year], he said he "was not a scientist" when asked about his views on climate change. In response, a group of Florida scientists requested to meet with Scott and explain the science behind the phenomenon. Scott agreed. The scientists were given 30 minutes.
"He actually, as we were warned, spent ten minutes doing silly things like prolonged introductions," geologist and University of Miami professor Harold Wanless recalled. "But we had our 20 to 21 minutes, and he said thank you and went on to his more urgent matters, such as answering his telephone calls and so on. There were no questions of substance."
Phrases like "climate drivers" and "climate-driven changes" (or "nuisance flooding" instead of "sea-level rise," though that term is slowly infiltrating official ranks) are used instead of more controversial (i.e., more scientifically accurate) language.
In Florida it will be hard to plan for climate change, [professor Wanless] said, if officials can't talk about climate change.
"It's beyond ludicrous to deny using the term climate change," he said. "It's criminal at this point."
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Religious right HERO Theodore Shoebat Says ISIS Is A Gay Cult And 'Fags' Want To Molest Children
"SPAZZCATAZ." <unifarva4@gmail.com>: Mar 08 02:23PM -0700
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has unifarva ever entered a chicken plucking contest before?
robert stickler <rjs2084@aol.com>: Mar 08 04:07AM -0700
% said you have.
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