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***Generally, we *don't* cite those sources to make definitive pronouncements, though we sometimes have to rely on them in some circumstances; note we always cite the passage in question for the reader. As for your Peter Jackson example, that's pretty well covered by the canon system; forgive the tautology, but non-''Star Wars'' products aren't ''Star Wars'' products, and thus aren't canon. As for certain articles in unlicensed magazines, they ARE in some ways a "grey zone," because even though they're not canon, some elements from them get treated as canon anyway; for example, [[Dan Wallace]] notes in [http://blogs.starwars.com/danwallace/147 Endnotes for Star Wars: The Essential Atlas (part 5 of 5)]], "After consultation with Lucasfilm, we agreed to include planets introduced in unofficial RPG articles in magazines such as Polyhedron and Dragon, so long as they'd been written by authors who at some point received an author credit for licensed Star Wars material. (Note that this says nothing about such articles' canon status beyond the fact that the star systems exist.)" That said, your suggestion to put things "into non-canon info sections or behind the scenes, as is appropriate on a case by case basis" is already our general standard operating procedure for such things. [[User:JSarek|jSarek]] 23:56, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

 

***Generally, we *don't* cite those sources to make definitive pronouncements, though we sometimes have to rely on them in some circumstances; note we always cite the passage in question for the reader. As for your Peter Jackson example, that's pretty well covered by the canon system; forgive the tautology, but non-''Star Wars'' products aren't ''Star Wars'' products, and thus aren't canon. As for certain articles in unlicensed magazines, they ARE in some ways a "grey zone," because even though they're not canon, some elements from them get treated as canon anyway; for example, [[Dan Wallace]] notes in [http://blogs.starwars.com/danwallace/147 Endnotes for Star Wars: The Essential Atlas (part 5 of 5)]], "After consultation with Lucasfilm, we agreed to include planets introduced in unofficial RPG articles in magazines such as Polyhedron and Dragon, so long as they'd been written by authors who at some point received an author credit for licensed Star Wars material. (Note that this says nothing about such articles' canon status beyond the fact that the star systems exist.)" That said, your suggestion to put things "into non-canon info sections or behind the scenes, as is appropriate on a case by case basis" is already our general standard operating procedure for such things. [[User:JSarek|jSarek]] 23:56, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

 

****This sounds like you can add anything and everything simply because it passes the few, but all-inclusive canon policies. Example: [[Porridge]] ''was'' indeed mentioned in those 2 sources stated, and although I would disagree as to how a one-liner article on something that was mentioned briefly would indeed benefit from the addition of a picture, it ''certainly'' passes through the "canonicity checklist" because it ''did'' appear in a book as per "All novels, reference books, and collections of short stories published by Bantam Spectra, Del Rey, Dorling Kindersley or any other officially licensed publishers". More examples: [[Absolute zero]], [[Photon]], [[Bone]]. Note that these articles are on topics with real-world equivalents with IU appearances. Is it necessary to include [[Han Solo]]'s choice of [[Underwear]] (ie. boxers/briefs/nothing at all) or Darth Vadar's hobbies? Perhaps but ''hardly'' deserving their own articles. Speaking of [[underwear]], the article is, to me, doesn't pass through this particular policy "Conjecture based on our own universe (with the exception, of course, of any such conjecture officially published by Lucas Licensing)", on what is not considered a valid resource. [[User:Songjin|Songjin]] 08:17, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

 

****This sounds like you can add anything and everything simply because it passes the few, but all-inclusive canon policies. Example: [[Porridge]] ''was'' indeed mentioned in those 2 sources stated, and although I would disagree as to how a one-liner article on something that was mentioned briefly would indeed benefit from the addition of a picture, it ''certainly'' passes through the "canonicity checklist" because it ''did'' appear in a book as per "All novels, reference books, and collections of short stories published by Bantam Spectra, Del Rey, Dorling Kindersley or any other officially licensed publishers". More examples: [[Absolute zero]], [[Photon]], [[Bone]]. Note that these articles are on topics with real-world equivalents with IU appearances. Is it necessary to include [[Han Solo]]'s choice of [[Underwear]] (ie. boxers/briefs/nothing at all) or Darth Vadar's hobbies? Perhaps but ''hardly'' deserving their own articles. Speaking of [[underwear]], the article is, to me, doesn't pass through this particular policy "Conjecture based on our own universe (with the exception, of course, of any such conjecture officially published by Lucas Licensing)", on what is not considered a valid resource. [[User:Songjin|Songjin]] 08:17, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

 

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==THE LEGENDARY STAR WARS EXPANDED UNIVERSE TURNS A NEW PAGE==

 

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Just yesterday, an article on starwars.com announced that only the movies, the clone wars, rebels, and any future material are considered canonical as to make way for Episode 7. Any past EU material is non-canonical and is now under the "Legends" label. It's like "Infinities" but there's a ton of stuff under it. This is a horrible change (in my opinion) but a necessary one to make way for the new movies. If only Lucasfilm had been vigilant in monitoring EU material for inconsistencies. Almost every page on this wiki will need to be changed. An administrator must edit this page. Please see the article here: http://starwars.com/news/the-legendary-star-wars-expanded-universe-turns-a-new-page.html

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