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‎Rumors about Super Smash Bros. 4: Some spots I missed, as well as a typo fix

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On 12 December 2012, [http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-wii-u/64901335 a thread] on [[GameFAQs]] was started by a user named Halibuton; the user claimed that he worked for [[Namco]] and had some information told to him by his co-workers concerning the development of ''Super Smash Bros. 4''.

 

On 12 December 2012, [http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-wii-u/64901335 a thread] on [[GameFAQs]] was started by a user named Halibuton; the user claimed that he worked for [[Namco]] and had some information told to him by his co-workers concerning the development of ''Super Smash Bros. 4''.

 

 



Halibuton claimed that there would be a Nintendo Direct on the fifth anniversary of ''Brawl''
<nowiki>
'
</nowiki>
s Japanese release (31 January 2013) and said it would be centered around ''Smash 4'', though likely more of a series retrospective with minor new info than a full-blown reveal trailer. He also said that he knew a bit about the early roster and claimed to know a few newcomers: Takamaru from ''{{s|wikipedia|Nazo no Murasame Jō}}'' and [[Little Mac]] (chosen as recent-popularity classics and an "East vs. West" concept supposedly due to previous games being too Japan-only-series-centric) as well as [[King K. Rool]] and [[Ridley]] (chosen due to popular demand and having movesets based on more recent games). Other claimed, less-finalized newcomers are Shulk from ''{{s|wikipedia|Xenoblade}}'', [[Dillon]] from ''{{s|wikipedia|Dillon's Rolling Western}}'' (who was later confirmed as an [[Assist Trophy]]), {{s|zeldawiki|Ghirahim}} from the [[The Legend of Zelda (series)|''Legend of Zelda'' series]], a "Debu" from the at the time rumour-only ''{{s|mariowiki|Yarn Yoshi}}'' (supposedly a partner of [[Yoshi]], with "Debu" possibly being just a nickname or placeholder), and a {{s|wikipedia|Platinum Games}} character possibly from ''{{s|wikipedia|The Wonderful 101}}''. Aside from characters, multiple stages were listed: Starship Mario (''Super Mario Galaxy 2''), Giant Chasm (''Pokémon Black 2/White 2''), Pushmo Park (''Pushmo''), and Cookie Country (''Kirby's Return to Dream Land'').

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Halibuton claimed that there would be a Nintendo Direct on the fifth anniversary of ''Brawl''
{{
'
}}
s Japanese release (31 January 2013) and said it would be centered around ''Smash 4'', though likely more of a series retrospective with minor new info than a full-blown reveal trailer. He also said that he knew a bit about the early roster and claimed to know a few newcomers: Takamaru from ''{{s|wikipedia|Nazo no Murasame Jō}}'' and [[Little Mac]] (chosen as recent-popularity classics and an "East vs. West" concept supposedly due to previous games being too Japan-only-series-centric) as well as [[King K. Rool]] and [[Ridley]] (chosen due to popular demand and having movesets based on more recent games). Other claimed, less-finalized newcomers are Shulk from ''{{s|wikipedia|Xenoblade}}'', [[Dillon]] from ''{{s|wikipedia|Dillon's Rolling Western}}'' (who was later confirmed as an [[Assist Trophy]]), {{s|zeldawiki|Ghirahim}} from the [[The Legend of Zelda (series)|''Legend of Zelda'' series]], a "Debu" from the at the time rumour-only ''{{s|mariowiki|Yarn Yoshi}}'' (supposedly a partner of [[Yoshi]], with "Debu" possibly being just a nickname or placeholder), and a {{s|wikipedia|Platinum Games}} character possibly from ''{{s|wikipedia|The Wonderful 101}}''. Aside from characters, multiple stages were listed: Starship Mario (''Super Mario Galaxy 2''), Giant Chasm (''Pokémon Black 2/White 2''), Pushmo Park (''Pushmo''), and Cookie Country (''Kirby's Return to Dream Land'').

 

 

 

Halibuton's claimed date for the reveal of 31 January 2013, however, ultimately passed without a Nintendo Direct presentation, significant news about ''Smash 4'', or mentions of any of the aforementioned characters, thus ultimately disproving the rumor after two months of speculation.

 

Halibuton's claimed date for the reveal of 31 January 2013, however, ultimately passed without a Nintendo Direct presentation, significant news about ''Smash 4'', or mentions of any of the aforementioned characters, thus ultimately disproving the rumor after two months of speculation.

 

 

 

===[[E3 2013]] leak===

 

===[[E3 2013]] leak===



Before E3 2013, the owner of the gaming site [http://gematsu.com/ Gematsu], Sal Romano, claimed to have received an email from an anonymous source claiming to know which [[newcomer]]s would be introduced at E3 2013. Initially doubting the veracity of the letter, Romano jokingly posted the list to NeoGAF as a "prediction". Among the predicted newcomers were an
[[Animal Crossing (universe)|
''Animal Crossing''
]]
{{SSB4|Villager}}; [[Capcom]]'s {{SSB4|Mega Man}}; the [[Wii Fit Trainer (SSB4)|female trainer]] from
[[Wii Fit (universe)|
''Wii Fit''
]]
; {{SSB4|Little Mac}} from ''[[Punch-Out!!]]''; [[Nintendo]]'s {{s|wikipedia|Mii}}; and [[Namco]]'s {{s|wikipedia|Pac-Man}}.<ref>http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/66442330</ref>  

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Before E3 2013, the owner of the gaming site [http://gematsu.com/ Gematsu], Sal Romano, claimed to have received an email from an anonymous source claiming to know which [[newcomer]]s would be introduced at E3 2013. Initially doubting the veracity of the letter, Romano jokingly posted the list to NeoGAF as a "prediction". Among the predicted newcomers were an ''
{{uv|
Animal Crossing
}}
'' {{SSB4|Villager}}; [[Capcom]]'s {{SSB4|Mega Man}}; the [[Wii Fit Trainer (SSB4)|female trainer]] from ''
{{uv|
Wii Fit
}}
''; {{SSB4|Little Mac}} from ''[[Punch-Out!!]]''; [[Nintendo]]'s {{s|wikipedia|Mii}}; and [[Namco]]'s {{s|wikipedia|Pac-Man}}.<ref>http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/66442330</ref>  

 

 

 

To the surprise of many observers, including Romano himself, the leak successfully predicted the reveal of the Villager, Mega Man, and female Wii Fit Trainer; the lattermost was especially considered surprising, as [[Masahiro Sakurai]] himself stated that the character was one that "no one expected".

 

To the surprise of many observers, including Romano himself, the leak successfully predicted the reveal of the Villager, Mega Man, and female Wii Fit Trainer; the lattermost was especially considered surprising, as [[Masahiro Sakurai]] himself stated that the character was one that "no one expected".

 

 



While Little Mac, Mii, and Pac-Man were not revealed at E3 as the email claimed, some observers believed Sakurai decided to
postponed
their reveal for various speculated reasons, and that the characters would be revealed later on. In support of this, Little Mac was later revealed as a playable character, causing the leak to accurately predict four of its six characters.

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While Little Mac, Mii, and Pac-Man were not revealed at E3 as the email claimed, some observers believed Sakurai decided to
postpone
their reveal for various speculated reasons, and that the characters would be revealed later on. In support of this, Little Mac was later revealed as a playable character, causing the leak to accurately predict four of its six characters.

 

 

 

A few hours before the ''Smash 4''-centered [[Nintendo Direct]], the leaker sent another email to Romano; the contents of the email continued to claim that Pac-Man and a Mii would be playable, as well as adding predictions for [[wikipedia:Xenoblade Chronicles|Shulk from ''Xenoblade Chronicles'']]; [[Palutena]] from ''Kid Icarus: Uprising'' (tying in with [[#Palutena rumor|another rumor]]); {{s|fireemblemwiki|Chrom}} from ''{{s|fireemblemwiki|Fire Emblem: Awakening}}''; [[wikipedia:Rhythm Heaven|the Choir Men from ''Rhythm Heaven'']]; and an unknown [[Pokémon]] from ''{{s|bulbapedia|Pokémon X and Y}}''. Towards the conclusion of the Nintendo Direct presentation, [[Greninja]], who made its debut in ''Pokémon X and Y'', was confirmed as a playable character, giving further veracity to the leaks.

 

A few hours before the ''Smash 4''-centered [[Nintendo Direct]], the leaker sent another email to Romano; the contents of the email continued to claim that Pac-Man and a Mii would be playable, as well as adding predictions for [[wikipedia:Xenoblade Chronicles|Shulk from ''Xenoblade Chronicles'']]; [[Palutena]] from ''Kid Icarus: Uprising'' (tying in with [[#Palutena rumor|another rumor]]); {{s|fireemblemwiki|Chrom}} from ''{{s|fireemblemwiki|Fire Emblem: Awakening}}''; [[wikipedia:Rhythm Heaven|the Choir Men from ''Rhythm Heaven'']]; and an unknown [[Pokémon]] from ''{{s|bulbapedia|Pokémon X and Y}}''. Towards the conclusion of the Nintendo Direct presentation, [[Greninja]], who made its debut in ''Pokémon X and Y'', was confirmed as a playable character, giving further veracity to the leaks.

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===Lucina rumor===

 

===Lucina rumor===

 

[[File:LucinaRumor.jpg|150px|thumb|left|{{SSB4|Mario}} and Lucina appear to fight on the Great Sea.]]

 

[[File:LucinaRumor.jpg|150px|thumb|left|{{SSB4|Mario}} and Lucina appear to fight on the Great Sea.]]



An [http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=151886 AllIsBrawl post] made early on the 25 June 2013 claimed that an image had been leaked on the ''Smash 4'' website, presumably from the "image of the day". The image shows Mario and
[[
fireemblemwiki
:Lucina
|Lucina
]]
(from ''
[[
fireemblemwiki
:Fire Emblem: Awakening
|Fire Emblem Awakening
]]
'') on a
[[
zeldawiki
:Fairy Isle
|Fairy Isle
]]
in the
[[
zeldawiki
:Great Sea
|Great Sea
]]
. There was no evidence on the site, however; the image of the day instead featured {{SSB4|Link}} doing an aerial [[Spin Attack]] in Skyloft.

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An [http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=151886 AllIsBrawl post] made early on the 25 June 2013 claimed that an image had been leaked on the ''Smash 4'' website, presumably from the "image of the day". The image shows Mario and
{{s|
fireemblemwiki|Lucina
}}
(from ''
{{s|
fireemblemwiki|Fire Emblem Awakening
}}
'') on a
{{s|
zeldawiki|Fairy Isle
}}
in the
{{s|
zeldawiki|Great Sea
}}
. There was no evidence on the site, however; the image of the day instead featured {{SSB4|Link}} doing an aerial [[Spin Attack]] in Skyloft.

 

 

 

This image, while initially appearing to be legitimate, was actually compiled using a variety of elaborate hacks available for ''Brawl''. The stage seen in the image is a [http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=32175 Fairy Isle hacked stage], and the Mario in the image uses a [http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=32601 texture hack] to make his model more closely resemble his newer model in ''Super Smash Bros. 4''; Lucina herself is identical to a PSA hack seen in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP6QwuDjQYs "The Lucina PSA"]. While not particularly widespread outside [[All is Brawl]], this was the first known rumor to showcase the level of elaboration that ''Brawl'' hacks bring to rumor producers.

 

This image, while initially appearing to be legitimate, was actually compiled using a variety of elaborate hacks available for ''Brawl''. The stage seen in the image is a [http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=32175 Fairy Isle hacked stage], and the Mario in the image uses a [http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=32601 texture hack] to make his model more closely resemble his newer model in ''Super Smash Bros. 4''; Lucina herself is identical to a PSA hack seen in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP6QwuDjQYs "The Lucina PSA"]. While not particularly widespread outside [[All is Brawl]], this was the first known rumor to showcase the level of elaboration that ''Brawl'' hacks bring to rumor producers.

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===Raiden "leak"===

 

===Raiden "leak"===



In early April 2014, [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0486047/ Reuben Langdon], a voice actor known for voicing
[[
wikipedia
:Ken Masters
|Ken Masters
]]
in the ''[[wikipedia:Street Fighter (series)|Street Fighter]]'' series and [[wikipedia:Dante (Devil May Cry)|Dante]] in the ''[[wikipedia:Devil May Cry (series)|Devil May Cry]]'' series, claimed in an interview that he had voiced [[wikipedia:Raiden (Metal Gear)|Raiden]] from the ''
[[Metal Gear (universe)
|Metal Gear
]]
'' series in ''Super Smash Bros.'' <ref>http://mynintendonews.com/2014/04/03/voice-actor-says-he-voiced-raiden-in-super-smash-bros/</ref>. Since Raiden's only appearance in ''Brawl'' was as a [[sticker]], this seemed to leak Raiden having some sort of role in ''Smash 4'', as well as indirectly confirming the return of [[Snake]]. When the news was first announced, some observers believed he was mistaking ''Super Smash Bros.'' for ''
[[
wikipedia
:PlayStation_All-Stars_Battle_Royale
|PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale
]]
'', a Sony equivalent to ''Super Smash Bros.'' that featured Raiden as a playable character. This potential confusion, however, initially was eliminated when it was demonstrated that Raiden's voice actor in the game was
[[
wikipedia
:Quinton Flynn
|Quinton Flynn
]]
, not Reuben Langdon. Langdon, however, would later reignite this confusion himself:

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In early April 2014, [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0486047/ Reuben Langdon], a voice actor known for voicing
{{s|
wikipedia|Ken Masters
}}
in the ''[[wikipedia:Street Fighter (series)|Street Fighter]]'' series and [[wikipedia:Dante (Devil May Cry)|Dante]] in the ''[[wikipedia:Devil May Cry (series)|Devil May Cry]]'' series, claimed in an interview that he had voiced [[wikipedia:Raiden (Metal Gear)|Raiden]] from the ''
{{uv
|Metal Gear
}}
'' series in ''Super Smash Bros.'' <ref>http://mynintendonews.com/2014/04/03/voice-actor-says-he-voiced-raiden-in-super-smash-bros/</ref>. Since Raiden's only appearance in ''Brawl'' was as a [[sticker]], this seemed to leak Raiden having some sort of role in ''Smash 4'', as well as indirectly confirming the return of [[Snake]]. When the news was first announced, some observers believed he was mistaking ''Super Smash Bros.'' for ''
{{s|
wikipedia|PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale
}}
'', a Sony equivalent to ''Super Smash Bros.'' that featured Raiden as a playable character. This potential confusion, however, initially was eliminated when it was demonstrated that Raiden's voice actor in the game was
{{s|
wikipedia|Quinton Flynn
}}
, not Reuben Langdon. Langdon, however, would later reignite this confusion himself:

 

 

 

{{cquote|Oh, the all-stars battle Royale was the one I was in. Lol! Yep. Totally got them confused.|cite=Reuben Langdon|source=http://www.gonintendo.com/s/225510-raiden-not-appearing-in-smash-bros-wii-u-3ds}}

 

{{cquote|Oh, the all-stars battle Royale was the one I was in. Lol! Yep. Totally got them confused.|cite=Reuben Langdon|source=http://www.gonintendo.com/s/225510-raiden-not-appearing-in-smash-bros-wii-u-3ds}}

 

 



Langdon, who also does
[[
wikipedia
:Motion capture
|motion capture
]]
work for video games, additionally claimed he was referring to motion capture work. However, no official source credits Langdon as having done any such work in ''PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale'', and the credits of that game do not list individual actors that performed motion capture work. As such, there has been some speculation that Langdon may have been trying to cover up an inadvertent leak by "confirming" the mix-up, though this remains unconfirmed.

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Langdon, who also does
{{s|
wikipedia|motion capture
}}
work for video games, additionally claimed he was referring to motion capture work. However, no official source credits Langdon as having done any such work in ''PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale'', and the credits of that game do not list individual actors that performed motion capture work. As such, there has been some speculation that Langdon may have been trying to cover up an inadvertent leak by "confirming" the mix-up, though this remains unconfirmed.

 

 

 

===Character roster leak===

 

===Character roster leak===

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