2014-10-02

Nurses, Doctors & Hospital Workers are

Planning to Quit When Ebola Shows Up

The following were posted anonymously on a number of forums:

How many nurses will continue working their jobs with ebola patients? I won’t. Too risky..small children at home..not worth it with incubation period of 21 days..unsure if i trust what they say about transmission modes.

I have been a nurse for 23 years. The “small children i spoke about at home are my grandchildren. If Ebola hits our shores and spreads..no..I won’t report for nursing duty..I will go into quarantine with my family and grandchildren in tow. The reason why I started this thread is because i believe there are tons of nurses..doctors..janitors.. housekeepers like me. I do not trust what they are saying on how this is spread.

I do not know how all of these doctors and nurses are contracting this. We understand how to take precautions. This is not a reflection on “how caring” or “how good ” of a nurse I am…this is about not wanting to die ..or bring this disease home to my grandchildren. And anyone who talks about “viral pheumonia..flu..aids..ect.” give me a break..Ebola is in a totally different league. They dont burn down villages with “the flu”..

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Better yet who would risk going to a hospital in the middle of Ebola outbreaks? Seems like a sure way to get it if you don’t already have it.

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Every nurse I have asked has said “I am not paid enough to be around that”..and then.. I think..you couldn’t pay me enough to risk killing my loved ones ..so no amount of money for me.

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I used to work in it and couldn’t stand how I was treated like a dog. They expected perfection and to take care of too many very, very sick but in return they treated me really bad.

I was smart and got out. I got another degree and will never go back to that shiaaaaat hole. I have never met a nurse today that really has a good thing to say or is treated very well. The system is really broken and no one has the balls to try and fix it. If you speak up; you lose your job or other. I do feel sorry for some who have put themselves in a hard place financially and can’t leave. BUT no job is worth your life. This is one reason I left. Too many life threatening diseases and too much that goes on to lose a license over….

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There is already a dire shortage of doctors, nurses, and other medical types. Socialized medicine is only hastening their flight out of the field. Where were the cops during hurricane Katrina? There is your glimpse into the future.

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Was working in a non patient contact job but quit due to this concern. I would still be exposed to patients…I refuse to die for a job.

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I work at a hospital, and have heard some folks say that when Ebola shows up there, they are gone. Not just nurses. In fact most nurses do not want to talk about it. Many are the primary bread winners and no jobs out there. So, if in fact they quit it will be a real hardship for their family.

And do not forget how many medical staff in hazmat suits and fully “protected”, have died in this fight.

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Companies that Handle Hospital Waste, refuse to handle Ebola waste:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/24/us-health-ebola-usa-hospitals-insight-idUSKCN0HJ0AD20140924

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I know two nurses who are preppers. They are prepared to walk away from their jobs. The CDC wants you to believe that American hospitals can handle this disease. They are not taking into account that hospitals are staffed by humans.

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One quarter of the New Orleans police force left during Katrina. They still had their badges and uniforms for looting purposes.

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If a nurse posts info on social media, they are fired.

It was reported 5 people lost their jobs at the Dallas hospital for posting on social media about it.

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The press conference today was quite telling. The politicians did their usual “move along, nothing to see, all is well” but one of the doctors spoke quite nervously and the two people standing behind him looked scared. (This refers to Oct 1,2014, after the first person in the USA to officially be diagnosed with ebola was confirmed, in Dallas, Texas).

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Insider Info – what they’re not telling you about the Dallas Ebola victim: I am a registered nurse. I pull a couple shifts a week at various ER thru a temping agency (allowing me to keep my skills sharp) but my main gig is with a well known plastic surgeon in the area.

Most of his work is very private (niche hospitals) and recovery takes place in a non traditional hospital setting etc. Occasionally though and especially for pro-bono cases we will use area hospitals – Presbyterian is one of those hospitals.

According to the news, life is normal at Presbyterian except for the single isolation patient.

Nothing could be further from the truth. All elective surgeries have ceased – not even routed to different hospitals. If patients did there pre-surgery labs on campus they will now be delayed 21 additional days and have to retest. That’s got to tell you something.

Rumor has it there are two with a possible third now in isolation at Presbyterian.

(In response to a post that medical professionals don’t gossip): Are you kidding me? The only group of “professionals” that gossip more are pilots, followed by a close second of cops.

Not proud but I own it.

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(Referring again to the hospital with Dallas ebola patient) – If you were inside the hospital within the last 7 days, you are not a candidate for elective surgery there or at any hospital for 21 days.

CDC has confiscated ALL lab samples and taken them to Atlanta so tests will have to be done again.

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I am a sales rep and I sell infectious disease equipment into hospitals. My docs have told me that there are three other infected in different hospitals. It will be made public within next two days. Our sales have skyrocketed. The problem is that the only thing that kills Ebola is bleach. Buy bleach and prepare to be on lock down in your houses for the next two months to wait out the infection.

The government is really dragging their feet here. They don’t want panic but they do believe that it is isolated. They are nuts!

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See how they put the ambulance that carried the patient, out of commission. What will happen when hundreds of ambulances have carried patients? How are they going to disinfect them?



www.dailymail.co.uk

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It’s not just the disease itself that causes the damage, its the breakdown that surrounds it. Its the panic, its the bureaucratic nonsense that will paralyze the entire battle… leading to more fear …more deaths…more panic, and eventually people just stop showing up to work….and then the downward spiral really speeds up.

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I used to work as a nurse and my husband actually encouraged me first to leave. He was concerned for our family and what I would bring home. He read a report on some of the new diseases in hospitals and asked me if this was all true. I said yes; it was and he was horrified.

He wanted me to leave the job because he felt I myself was being exposed to too many deadly things and I was also bringing home potentially deadly things. I left the job and will never return.I feel sad that people don’t have enough smarts to know what is bad.

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I’ve been a nurse since 1993. Worked every type of unit from Med-Surg to prison emergency care. While working last year in prisons I began to see the sudden, dramatic rise in TB, HIV-Aids, Hep B&C, MRSA, Flu’s, Fevers, etc…and found other employment outside of healthcare.——–

(Editor’s Note): This was to be expected since people continue to ingest GMOs, which damages the whole body internally).

If you work for a medicare participating facility, I guarantee you will be working. Your alternative will be going to jail for violating emergency medical treatment laws. Regardless of legislation already in place, if a serious outbreak ever hit the United States, martial law would be declared and force all doctors and nurses to work.

Note: The Surgeon General is a MILITARY RANK.

Reply to the above post:Good luck. Most nurses I know of; allow their license to lapse as they never want to go back. In the picture you paint, they will be forcing a lot of unlicensed ex medical personnel to go back? Not safe. Will never happen——Many moons ago I moonlighted as an EMT , well enlisted pay was kinda crappy. Be that as it may , my buddy hooked me up with a job delivering pizzas. Hint: I made twice as much money hauling food to fatzoids as I did hauling fatzoids to the ER for fatty fat medical issues.——-

Let the libtarded fools stay…My wife is bailing at the first sign of Nigerians in the ER…

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I read on here somewhere that Minnesota has the most Liberians outside of African. It was 30,000 and lots of them were (are?) trying to get their families here where it is (was?) safe.

See Also: 5,000 Liberians living in New York City

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In terms of risk I find it interesting that while the British army is building a specialised unit with some 62 beds in Sierra Leone… BUT, the split will be 50 beds for patients and 12 beds for medical workers… that seems a really worrisome split, for every 50 patients the unit expect to treat a further 12 medical staff will end up infected and need treatment

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/ebola/11082413/British-troops-to-build-Ebola-treatment-centre.html

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Back when the swine flu fake scare was going around, the hospital I worked at sent a memo to all the clerical staff telling them that it was ‘expected’ that if for some reason (!) the ER and medically trained staff were unable to continue working in the event of a pandemic, we clerical staff would be expected to show up to work and ‘do whatever we were assigned’….

We all looked at each other and said, in unison and three part harmony, ‘YEAH RIGHT!’ Are you effing kidding me?

There’s a few ventilators and a few negative pressure rooms in the biggest hospitals, that’s it. After a few days, there would be idiots suffering from either the flu or Ebola (hard to tell which until they start bleeding from every orifice) stacked up in tents as far as the eye could see, like that scene in Gone With The Wind. No one will come to work then, trust me.

Home, doors locked and barricaded, after one last visit to try to get supplies.

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I am a primary provider (family doc). I have not made a decision regarding what I will do personally. I think it is an extremely important conversation to have. I don’t believe for a minute that my doctor peers will be showing up en mass to care for the poor souls stricken with Ebola. I think nurses are more likely to be there than doctors. After all, it’s nurses that are ass deep in the trenches daily. The doctors are only ankle deep. The doctors examine the patient and write orders. But it’s the nurses that are doing the real “caring”. Healthcare on any level is a thankless profession. We have people critcizing everything we do already. We face incredible liability for our every decision. At some point it just gets to be too much to ask. That point may be Ebola. And I agree that Ebola is a completely different thing than HIV, Hepatitis, tuberculosis, etc…

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Question: So why wait until Ebola?

Answer: Ah. Simple. When I’m treating someone with MERS, there’s a good chance I’ll survive if I get infected.

When I’m treating someone with TB, I’m betting it’s under control. Mistakes happen, but I’m betting the odds are in my favor.

When I’m treating an entire facility infected with shigella and It’s me working for 38 hours straight because we can’t get enough people who can STAND to come in, I know I’m likely to survive, the clients will not. I stood my ground and did my job because there was nobody else.

It’s a statistics thing. The chances of us both dying are low. The chances of the client dying without me are HIGH.

BTW, that’s 38 hours AWAKE. No sleep.

Ebola… Now that’s a horse of another color.

With Ebola, the chances of the client dying are HIGH. The chances of both of us dying are HIGH. Am I really going to make a difference, or am I going to go down with everyone else fighting a losing and impossible fight?

Answer that question, you’ll have your answer.

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Comments on the Ebola Patient in Dallas:

Saw on CNN – Anderson Cooper talked to woman companion of patient and the sheets still on bed. Towel still there. Nothing removed?

Saying “We don’t know how easy it is to get infection off towels etc”

I saw the part where he said the guy was sweating in her bed. Didn’t change sheets. Nasty….

On CNN Anderson Cooper spoke to woman on quarantine. The 4 people are the woman (possible girlfriend of Duncan) school aged child belonging to her & possibly Duncan & 2 nephews in their 20′s.

Woman states that she does not believe she came into contact with any body fluids however the sheets that Duncan slept in are still on her bed & she stated that he sweat a lot at night. She says Duncan was not vomiting but started to have a lot of diarrhea after given antibiotics after 1st ER visit.

She’s also a health care worker of some sort according to Anderson Cooper. She was going to work during this time! The child is her 13 year old son. She also stated that her daughter stopped over to bring Duncan tea while she was at work & the daughter found him very sick. That is when they called the ambulance. The daughter is NOT under quarantine.——-Not to mention we are understaffed on a daily basis…just the amount of time it would take to get in the Personal protective gear properly..each staff member….are company’s willing to hire alot more workers? I cannot imagine it with the staffing levels we have now…and that would be how mistakes are made…because everyday we do the impossible with what we have…

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Something I heard on the news concerned me..and that is..that they said the staff caring for the Dallas patient was wearing double gowns..double gloves..shoe covers and face masks…my question is…why in Africa do they have full bio suits..with sealed seams..and staff helping them dress to go in..and spraying them with bleach water when they come out to decontaminate them….why the more relaxed measures here? And remember…there are a large number of nurses still getting Ebola in Africa…I mean really? Double gowned?

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Dallas Paramedic: We Weren’t Contacted After Working in Ebola Exposed Ambulance

A Dallas paramedic claimed he drove the ambulance that the US Ebola patient was transported in and that he was not contacted by anyone about the potential exposure.

He claims he drove the ambulance sometime after the patient was transported. The Dallas Fire Department left the ambulance that transported Ebola patient Thomas Duncan to the hospital in service for at least 48 hours before putting it in quarantine on Wednesday. The ambulance was exposed to the Ebola virus when Duncan was transported on September 28th.

“All the people in the back of the ambulance 48 hours later before they finally took the ambulance out of service,” said Dallas Paramedic Geoffrey Aklinski in a discussion on Facebook, “none of them have been contacted. None of the paramedics that were on that shift and went in the ambulance were contacted. I’ve been off three days now. No one contacted me and I was in and drove that ambulance after it was infected.”

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If ever there was a time to strengthen your immune system by learning about natural health and improving your diet, that time is now.

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