MediaWiki:Centralnotice-stew2014noms-noms-invitation/lzh
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:: Do you think you could help fix up these banner messages? I'm busy currently, but I don't think many of the non-WMF admins know much about CentralNotice or translations, except {{U|Thehelpfulone}}. [[User:PiRSquared17|PiRSquared17]] ([[User talk:PiRSquared17|talk]]) 04:17, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
:: Do you think you could help fix up these banner messages? I'm busy currently, but I don't think many of the non-WMF admins know much about CentralNotice or translations, except {{U|Thehelpfulone}}. [[User:PiRSquared17|PiRSquared17]] ([[User talk:PiRSquared17|talk]]) 04:17, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
::: Generally I can detect them only when I will translate them ; translators should participate to testing these, and ideally the central notices should be immediately testable on another wiki such as TestWikipedia. Testing them only on Meta is not enough.
::: Generally I can detect them only when I will translate them ; translators should participate to testing these, and ideally the central notices should be immediately testable on another wiki such as TestWikipedia. Testing them only on Meta is not enough.
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::: My opinon is that there should exist a '''Global Test Wiki''' aka Glot-Wiki (nterwiki prefix=Glot:, url=//glot.wikimedia.org/ ) for all contents that will be sent globally, and this Glot-Wiki should be immediately during the translation work). Glot-Wiki will be regularly purged (or recreated) and updated to reflect the core MediaWiki version used and the minimal set of extensions that work on all wikis. (it should not have any beta extension, or extensions used only in Wikisource for example).
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::: My opinon is that there should exist a '''Global Test Wiki''' aka Glot-Wiki (nterwiki prefix=Glot:, url=//glot.wikimedia.org/ ) for all contents that will be sent globally, and this Glot-Wiki should be immediately during the translation work). Glot-Wiki will be regularly purged (or recreated) and updated to reflect the core MediaWiki version used and the minimal set of extensions that work on all wikis. (it should not have any beta extension, or extensions used only in Wikisource for example). Glot-Wiki should NOT have the Translation extension itself (not as long as ''all'' Wikimedia sites have this extension), so Global notices should still be translated and managed on Meta (which should still have more local-specific tools to manage translations).
::: ''Glot-Wiki'' will be completely different from ''Test Wikipedia Wiki'', which is used to beta-test new versions of MediaWiki or new extensions and features during their development. ''Glot-Wiki'' should be designed as a monolingual wiki (it can remain in English by default, but could host a "RTL English" locale variant (for testing layout with pseudo-Arabic, and for testing Arabic and Hebrew translations). That "RTL English" variant would work with the language variant selector used for example in Chinese, and it will be used instead of standard English, as the default fallback locale for RTL languages. In any places, GlotWikis can be prefilled with ''Lorem Ipsum'' pseudo-text. [[User:Verdy p|verdy_p]] ([[User talk:Verdy p|talk]]) 04:53, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
::: ''Glot-Wiki'' will be completely different from ''Test Wikipedia Wiki'', which is used to beta-test new versions of MediaWiki or new extensions and features during their development. ''Glot-Wiki'' should be designed as a monolingual wiki (it can remain in English by default, but could host a "RTL English" locale variant (for testing layout with pseudo-Arabic, and for testing Arabic and Hebrew translations). That "RTL English" variant would work with the language variant selector used for example in Chinese, and it will be used instead of standard English, as the default fallback locale for RTL languages. In any places, GlotWikis can be prefilled with ''Lorem Ipsum'' pseudo-text. [[User:Verdy p|verdy_p]] ([[User talk:Verdy p|talk]]) 04:53, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
::::Could you please just check my work for now? You're more knowledgeable than I am about translations at this point. How can I move all the MediaWiki messages to the CNBanner namespace? BTW, you can already view the banner e.g. [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bencmq?banner=stew2014noms&uselang=als]. The translations need to be up by Jan 15. We already have testwiki and test2wiki, [[testwiki:Lorem ipsum]]. [[User:PiRSquared17|PiRSquared17]] ([[User talk:PiRSquared17|talk]]) 05:06, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
::::Could you please just check my work for now? You're more knowledgeable than I am about translations at this point. How can I move all the MediaWiki messages to the CNBanner namespace? BTW, you can already view the banner e.g. [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bencmq?banner=stew2014noms&uselang=als]. The translations need to be up by Jan 15. We already have testwiki and test2wiki, [[testwiki:Lorem ipsum]]. [[User:PiRSquared17|PiRSquared17]] ([[User talk:PiRSquared17|talk]]) 05:06, 14 January 2014 (UTC)