Tired of the legal policies, among others // Fatigué des politiques juridiques, entre autres: new section
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For this policy to really work, so that people can do site-level statistics on the paid editors, flag any article with paid contributions, etc., you have to settle on ONE way for these to be indicated. What's more, that one way should be somewhere distinctive, easily found, easily webcrawled -- for example, a special subpage or a specific mechanism. For example, it should be possible for someone to run a script that flags all reverts (other than self-) by paid editors so that volunteers can review them. It should also be possible to search through these edits for keywords like, say, "leading", "number one", "forefront", "ground-breaking"... well, you get the picture. [[User:Wnt|Wnt]] ([[User talk:Wnt|talk]]) 20:27, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
For this policy to really work, so that people can do site-level statistics on the paid editors, flag any article with paid contributions, etc., you have to settle on ONE way for these to be indicated. What's more, that one way should be somewhere distinctive, easily found, easily webcrawled -- for example, a special subpage or a specific mechanism. For example, it should be possible for someone to run a script that flags all reverts (other than self-) by paid editors so that volunteers can review them. It should also be possible to search through these edits for keywords like, say, "leading", "number one", "forefront", "ground-breaking"... well, you get the picture. [[User:Wnt|Wnt]] ([[User talk:Wnt|talk]]) 20:27, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
: Hello [[User:Wnt|Wnt]], the intent of allowing three types of disclosure is to make this a minimal requirement in the Terms of Use. I see the benefit of requiring one specific type of disclosure (especially if it is machine readable, etc. as you suggest) for Wikipedia. Projects may set a stricter requirement for disclosure, and this Terms of Use proposal would require users to follow that more specific requirement as well. Thanks for your feedback. [[User:Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen LaPorte (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Slaporte (WMF)|talk]]) 22:58, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
: Hello [[User:Wnt|Wnt]], the intent of allowing three types of disclosure is to make this a minimal requirement in the Terms of Use. I see the benefit of requiring one specific type of disclosure (especially if it is machine readable, etc. as you suggest) for Wikipedia. Projects may set a stricter requirement for disclosure, and this Terms of Use proposal would require users to follow that more specific requirement as well. Thanks for your feedback. [[User:Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen LaPorte (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Slaporte (WMF)|talk]]) 22:58, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
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I begin to be tired of the modification (thinking, translating, commenting, advertising the community, rethinking, retranslating, dealing with blocker points, etc.) of the legal policies, among others. Since one year were changed: the privacy policy, the term of use policy, the trademark policy, the data retention policy, the nonpublic data policy, and there were the Wikimedia-Community logo issue and this one about paid edits. All that require '''<u>a lot</u>''' of work from the community who have already '''a lot''' of work elsewhere (FDC reviewing, grants reviewing, OTRS, translation, reading the reports, etc.) without speaking of chapter-related work some people (FDC/grant proposal, searching money, doing programs, reporting, etc.) and also contribute to the Wikimedia projects themselves for some other people.
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I’m absolutely not advocating against the openness, it’s really great, but could the WMF slow down the rhythm of the structural changes and/or try to better summarize the changes and/or try to better hear and respond to community requests and/or find ways to reduce the burden of the over-information within the movement? Today I have the feeling that the administrative tasks require so much time than programmative/contributive tasks suffer of a reduction of the available manpower.
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Je commence à être fatigué de la modification (réflexion, traduction, faire des commentaires, avertir la communauté, re-réflexion, re-traduction, gérer les points bloquants, etc.) des politiques juridiques, entre autres. Depuis un an ont été changées : la politique de confidentialité, les conditions générales d’utilisation, la politique des marques, la politique de conservation des données, la politique des données non-publiques, et il y a eu le problème du logo de la Communauté Wikimedia et celui-ci sur les contributions payées. Tout cela demande '''<u>beaucoup</u>''' de travail de la part de la communauté qui a déjà '''beaucoup''' de travail ailleurs (relecture du FDC, relecture des subventions, OTRS, traduction, lire les rapports, etc.) sans parler du travail lié aux chapters pour quelques personnes (propositions de FDC/subventions, chercher de l’argent, faire les programmes, faire les rapports, etc.) ainsi que contribuer aux projets Wikimedia eux-mêmes pour quelques autres personnes.
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Je ne suis absolument pas contre l’ouverture qui est vraiment formidable, mais j’aimerais que la WMF ralentisse le rythme des changements structurels et/ou essaye de mieux résumer les changements et/ou essaye de mieux écouter et répondre à la communauté et/ou trouve des moyens de réduire la charge de sur-information au sein du mouvement. Aujourd’hui, j’ai le sentiment que les tâches administratives demandent tant de temps que les tâches de contribution ou liées aux programmes souffrent d’une diminution de la main-d’œuvre disponible.
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