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I'd like once more to point out [[Talk:Privacy_policy/Call_for_input_%282013%29#Generation_of_editor_profiles|serious concerns]] about the generation and publication of detailed user profiles on Wikimedia websites or servers. This issue is repeatedly dealt with, at least, on the German Wikipedia (actually again in [[:de:Wikipedia_Diskussion:Kurier#aktuelle_Probleme|the signpost equivalent at deWP]]). While the [[toolserver]]'s policy accords to European standards concerning data privacy, [http://tools.wmflabs.org/ wmlabs] (which will completly replace the toolsever in 2014) does not meet these requirements. A [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/X!%27s_Edit_Counter contributor's poll at Meta] clearly showed the community's preference of an opt-in solution for user data mining tools. Nevertheless WMF is giving the opportunity to run [https://tools.wmflabs.org/ricordisamoa/dui/ a detailed user profiling tool] that does not allow an opt-in, even not an opt-out. We are aware that American data protection standards differ from European standards, and that such tools are considered to be legal in the USA. They are yet not needed by anyone. Thus, we still hope that WMF does not impose US points of view on their global contributors, whenever weak data policies are not <u>required</u> by US law, nor needed by contributors to improve the projects' contents. Looking forward a WMF statement on this issue. --[[User:Martina Nolte|Martina Nolte]] ([[User talk:Martina Nolte|talk]]) 20:53, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

 

I'd like once more to point out [[Talk:Privacy_policy/Call_for_input_%282013%29#Generation_of_editor_profiles|serious concerns]] about the generation and publication of detailed user profiles on Wikimedia websites or servers. This issue is repeatedly dealt with, at least, on the German Wikipedia (actually again in [[:de:Wikipedia_Diskussion:Kurier#aktuelle_Probleme|the signpost equivalent at deWP]]). While the [[toolserver]]'s policy accords to European standards concerning data privacy, [http://tools.wmflabs.org/ wmlabs] (which will completly replace the toolsever in 2014) does not meet these requirements. A [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/X!%27s_Edit_Counter contributor's poll at Meta] clearly showed the community's preference of an opt-in solution for user data mining tools. Nevertheless WMF is giving the opportunity to run [https://tools.wmflabs.org/ricordisamoa/dui/ a detailed user profiling tool] that does not allow an opt-in, even not an opt-out. We are aware that American data protection standards differ from European standards, and that such tools are considered to be legal in the USA. They are yet not needed by anyone. Thus, we still hope that WMF does not impose US points of view on their global contributors, whenever weak data policies are not <u>required</u> by US law, nor needed by contributors to improve the projects' contents. Looking forward a WMF statement on this issue. --[[User:Martina Nolte|Martina Nolte]] ([[User talk:Martina Nolte|talk]]) 20:53, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

 

:Can you expand on what you mean by a 'US point of view'? --<span style="color: orange; font-weight: bold;">Krenair</span> <sup>([[User talk:Krenair|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Krenair|contribs]])</sup> 01:06, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

 

:Can you expand on what you mean by a 'US point of view'? --<span style="color: orange; font-weight: bold;">Krenair</span> <sup>([[User talk:Krenair|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Krenair|contribs]])</sup> 01:06, 25 November 2013 (UTC)



::Sure. User contribution data are publicly available in the edit histories. According to US law, it is okay to aggregate these data and generate detailed user profiles; people tend to feel okay with such a tool. In most or even all European countries an aggregation of personal data and the publication of user profiles without consent are considered illegal; people feel offended by such a tool. The views on what is okay or not okay depend on local laws. --[[User:Martina Nolte|Martina Nolte]] ([[User talk:Martina Nolte|talk]]) 04:27, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

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::Sure. User contribution data are publicly available in the edit histories. According to US law, it is okay to aggregate these data and generate detailed user profiles; people tend to feel okay with such a tool. In [http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:31995L0046:en:HTML European countries] an aggregation of personal data and the publication of user profiles without consent are considered illegal; people feel offended by such a tool. The views on what is okay or not okay depend on local laws. --[[User:Martina Nolte|Martina Nolte]] ([[User talk:Martina Nolte|talk]]) 04:27, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

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