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:Especially if they are completely unfamiliar with the source material -- this dialogue is taken directly from the episode and script. --- [[User:Captainmike|Captain Mike K. Bartel]]<sup>[[User talk:Captainmike|talk]]</sup> 02:51, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Especially if they are completely unfamiliar with the source material -- this dialogue is taken directly from the episode and script. --- [[User:Captainmike|Captain Mike K. Bartel]]<sup>[[User talk:Captainmike|talk]]</sup> 02:51, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)
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:If the name of the planet was never revealed on screen, and therefore this name is non-canon, why is this article here? [[User:Aholland|Aholland]] 04:02, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
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::If the name of the planet was never revealed on screen, and therefore this name is non-canon, why is this article here? [[User:Aholland|Aholland]] 04:02, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
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::It may not be wholly canon, but the existance of this planet is certainly canon and therefore worthy of a page. For lack of a canon title for this planet, we fall to the next most canon source - the script. If a canon source were to rename this planet, then this article would be moved immediately. --[[User:The Rev|The Rev]] 18:54, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
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:::It may not be wholly canon, but the existance of this planet is certainly canon and therefore worthy of a page. For lack of a canon title for this planet, we fall to the next most canon source - the script. If a canon source were to rename this planet, then this article would be moved immediately. --[[User:The Rev|The Rev]] 18:54, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
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:::If it was used in the script the above does work. I just don't have access to, and don't know anyone who does have access to, the script. [[User:Aholland|Aholland]] 19:19, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
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::If it was used in the script the above does work. I just don't have access to, and don't know anyone who does have access to, the script. [[User:Aholland|Aholland]] 19:19, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
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The planet's name in the script is likely derived from the term 'Amerindian', a portmanteau of 'American Indian'. [[Special:Contributions/67.150.72.24|67.150.72.24]] 23:05, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
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::::The planet's name in the script is likely derived from the term 'Amerindian', a portmanteau of 'American Indian'. [[Special:Contributions/67.150.72.24|67.150.72.24]] 23:05, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
== 18th Century? ==
== 18th Century? ==
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How do we know these people were transplanted in the 18th century? There's no mention of that date in the episode. [[User:Trek history|Trek history]] ([[User talk:Trek history|talk]]) 06:22, March 20, 2014 (UTC)
How do we know these people were transplanted in the 18th century? There's no mention of that date in the episode. [[User:Trek history|Trek history]] ([[User talk:Trek history|talk]]) 06:22, March 20, 2014 (UTC)
:iirc I've already removed these guys from [[18th century]] years ago because of the same concern,... so yeah, you may have a point -- [[User:Capricorn|Capricorn]] ([[User talk:Capricorn|talk]]) 09:05, March 20, 2014 (UTC)
:iirc I've already removed these guys from [[18th century]] years ago because of the same concern,... so yeah, you may have a point -- [[User:Capricorn|Capricorn]] ([[User talk:Capricorn|talk]]) 09:05, March 20, 2014 (UTC)
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I've been looking into this a little more, and now I DO actually think they came from the 18th Century. While no date is given in the episode, Spock does say that the Preservers rescued "cultures which were in danger of extinction," and that the Amerind people are "a mixture of Navajo, Mahican, and Delaware." According to Wikipedia, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navajo_people in the 1780s, the Spanish sent military expeditions against the Navajo]." And, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahican following the disruption of the American Revolutionary War (1775–1783), most of the Mahican descendants first migrated westward to join the Iroquois Oneida on their reservation in central New York]." Finally, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenape the Lenape, … are also called Delaware Indians. … Most Lenape were pushed out of their homeland by expanding European colonies during the 18th century after losses from intertribal conflicts]." This tells us that these three cultures were in danger of extinction in the late 18th Century, which is thus a probable date for the Preservers visit to Earth. I'm pretty new to this site - is the above a satisfactory explanation for the 18th Century date? [[User:Trek history|Trek history]] ([[User talk:Trek history|talk]]) 04:51, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
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I've been looking into this a little more, and now I DO actually think they came from the 18th Century. While no date is given in the episode, Spock does say that the Preservers rescued "cultures which were in danger of extinction," and that the Amerind people are "a mixture of Navajo, Mahican, and Delaware." According to Wikipedia, "{{w|Navajo people|in the 1780s, the Spanish sent military expeditions against the Navajo}}." And, "{{w|Mahican|following the disruption of the American Revolutionary War (1775–1783), most of the Mahican descendants first migrated westward to join the Iroquois Oneida on their reservation in central New York}}." Finally, "{{w|Lenape|the Lenape, … are also called Delaware Indians. … Most Lenape were pushed out of their homeland by expanding European colonies during the 18th century after losses from intertribal conflicts}}." This tells us that these three cultures were in danger of extinction in the late 18th Century, which is thus a probable date for the Preservers visit to Earth. I'm pretty new to this site - is the above a satisfactory explanation for the 18th Century date? [[User:Trek history|Trek history]] ([[User talk:Trek history|talk]]) 04:51, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
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::No, they are not. Only [[MA:RESOURCE|these resources]] can be used in articles, and only [[MA:CANON|information directly from the episodes or films]] can be used in-universe. - {{User:Archduk3/Sig/nature}} 05:22, March 22, 2014 (UTC)