2016-11-25



David “DHH” Heinemeier Hansson (@dhh) is the creator of Ruby on Rails, founder and CTO at Basecamp (formerly 37Signals), and the best-selling co-author of Rework and Remote: Office Not Required. Oh, and he went from not having a driver’s license at 25 to winning, at 34, the 24 Hours of Le Mans race, one of the most prestigious automobile races in the world. It is often called the “Grand Prix of endurance and efficiency.”

Listeners had a million questions we didn’t get to last time, so he’s back for round two because his episode is about to cross a million downloads — and that’s in barely two weeks!

In this episode, DHH discusses:

Digital security

The value of schooling

Three questions you should be able to answer

Company culture

How bladder relief happens in a 24-hour race

And much, much more!

Please enjoy my round 2 conversation with DHH!



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Want to hear my first episode with David “DHH” Heinemeier Hansson? — Listen to this interview, which has already been downloaded almost a million times. In this episode, DHH shares his thoughts on the power of being outspoken, running a profitable business without venture capital, Stoic philosophy, and much more (stream below or right-click here to download):

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Scroll below for links and show notes…

Selected Links from the Episode

Connect with DHH:

Website | The Distance Podcast | Twitter | Instagram | Medium | Basecamp | Ruby on Rails

David “DHH” Heinemeier Hansson: The Power of Being Outspoken (DHH’s first appearance on this show)

Why Danish Students are Paid to Go to College by Rick Noack, The Washington Post

Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs by Saul McLeod, Simply Psychology

Unlearn Your MBA — DHH’s talk at Stanford’s Entrepreneur Corner

Science, Technology, Engineering and Math (STEM): Education for Global Leadership, US Department of Education

What are Computer-Aided Software Engineering (CASE) tools?

You’re A Computer. Can You Pass The Turing Test? via ClickHole

Remote: Office Not Required by Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Rework by Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson

Employee Benefits at Basecamp by Jason Fried, Signal v. Noise

DHH uses 1Password as his password manager and two-factor authentication wherever possible.

37Signals No More — Changes Name to Basecamp and Drops All Products but Its Namesake by Ben Kepes, Forbes

24 Hours of Le Mans

It might be prudent for race car drivers to bring Anti-Monkey Butt Powder for those long stretches.

Show Notes

What skills are most important today? [05:22]

Will the days of AI (artificial intelligence) writing its own code be a reality soon? [13:49]

Thoughts on creating and maintaining a company culture. [19:13]

How does DHH ensure his own digital security? [26:21]

How (and why) did DHH and Jason Fried make the decision to sell off a lot of 37Signals’ portfolio products and double down on Basecamp? [32:07]

How have DHH and Jason Fried resolved heated disagreements and maintained their thriving partnership for so many years? [40:37]

What DHH has learned about effective parenting and his thoughts on raising a rebel vs. a compliant child. [45:45]

What was DHH’s opinion of himself as a child? [52:51]

How does DHH stay alert during a 24-hour Le Mans race? [57:18]

Does a 24-hour race take bathroom breaks into account? [1:02:56]

People Mentioned

Jason Fried

Colt Heinemeier Hansson

Jamie Heinemeier Hansson

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