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<small>Archives: [[User:Moviesign/ArchiveTalk2011|2011]], [[User:Moviesign/ArchiveTalk2012|2012]], [[User:Moviesign/ArchiveTalk2014|2013–14]], [[User:Moviesign/ArchiveTalk2015|2015]]</small>

As of this date, there are 17,693 articles on the FR Wiki. and my edit total was 21,764/22,447 depending on which number you believe. —[[User:Moviesign|Moviesign]] ([[User talk:Moviesign|talk]]) 21:30, January 4, 2016 (UTC)

==Search bar==

Sir,

What happened to the Search bar?

:I see it hovering at the top of every wiki page. You don't see it? Please sign your Talk page entries and Forum posts with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) so it notes who and when something was posted. Thanks! —[[User:Moviesign|Moviesign]] ([[User talk:Moviesign|talk]]) 18:00, January 12, 2016 (UTC)

== Ship Template ==

I noticed the templates for plants and mountains have a colored infobox (green/black). I looked on the source edit pages for both but didn't see how that was done. Is there a way to edit the ship template so the infobox is blue? [[User:Artemaz|Artemaz]] ([[User talk:Artemaz|talk]]) 17:10, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

:Yes, it just requires a little more work. I'll fix it up and see what you think. I think we use a color of blue for {{tl|Immortal}} but I'll pick something more saturated perhaps. Unless you have a color picked out? Do you like the template layout with the "Basic information" and "Configuration" sections? Are the parameters the way you want them? —[[User:Moviesign|Moviesign]] ([[User talk:Moviesign|talk]]) 20:05, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

::The parameters and everything for the ship template look perfect now. Thanks again for all of your help! Regarding the color, I just thought it would be cool to have the infobox appear is some kind of blue since ships spend most of their time on the water. :) [[User:Artemaz|Artemaz]] ([[User talk:Artemaz|talk]]) 20:39, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

:::…but ships themselves are usually brown. :) ~ ''[[User:Lhynard|Lhynard]]'' ([[User talk:Lhynard|talk]]) 21:36, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

::::Only the dirty ones! Seriously though, I suppose brown would work too, but blue is prettier. [[User:Artemaz|Artemaz]] ([[User talk:Artemaz|talk]]) 21:41, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

:::::I think it would be neat to see some combination of both. ~ ''[[User:Lhynard|Lhynard]]'' ([[User talk:Lhynard|talk]]) 21:43, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

::::::Knowing Movie, he could make that happen and add a barnacle to the side of the ship infobox... [[User:Artemaz|Artemaz]] ([[User talk:Artemaz|talk]]) 21:49, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

::::::A '''Two color Infobox??!?''' Are you ''insane''? Surely that is a sign of the apocalypse! —[[User:Moviesign|Moviesign]] ([[User talk:Moviesign|talk]]) 00:53, January 14, 2016 (UTC)

:Okay, my original variations on one color (a greenish blue) infobox can be seen on any ship page. To see all the colors, you have to specify an image and a caption as well as some basic info. If you want a two-color scheme, we can try that, but too much variation and it just looks garish. You may think it already looks garish with that basic color (which I lightened up a step already), so let me know if you had a more sky-blue color in mind or what. —[[User:Moviesign|Moviesign]] ([[User talk:Moviesign|talk]]) 02:29, January 14, 2016 (UTC)

::I swear I'm trying not to be too picky, but could you make the color more sky blue? It looks pretty turqoise when I refreshed the [[Reaver (ship)]] page. [[User:Artemaz|Artemaz]] ([[User talk:Artemaz|talk]]) 04:33, January 14, 2016 (UTC)

:::Sure, no problem. But it will have to wait until tomorrow. Need sleep now..zzZZzz —[[User:Moviesign|Moviesign]] ([[User talk:Moviesign|talk]]) 05:16, January 14, 2016 (UTC)

:::How's that? —[[User:Moviesign|Moviesign]] ([[User talk:Moviesign|talk]]) 02:06, January 15, 2016 (UTC)

== Shadovar ==

The entire history section of [[Shadovar]] refers to a conflict which already has its own section in [[New Neverwinter]] where it belongs. It does not tell the history of the Shadovar whatsoever and I was going to replace it with their actual history. I wrote that history a while back and it does not fit and should be replaced. --[[User:Mr. Youtube|Mr. Youtube]] ([[User talk:Mr. Youtube|talk]]) 17:33, January 21, 2016 (UTC)

:Okay, as long as we're not losing good content, put it where you think it belongs. —[[User:Moviesign|Moviesign]] ([[User talk:Moviesign|talk]]) 17:45, January 21, 2016 (UTC)

== Cheers! ==

Congrats on your 1000<sup>th</sup> page! ~ ''[[User:Lhynard|Lhynard]]'' ([[User talk:Lhynard|talk]]) 18:44, February 27, 2016 (UTC)

== Kits ==

I removed those kits because they actually do not appear in ''Shadows of Amn''. They were added with the ''Enhanced Edition''s, and are already correctly listed further down on the Kits page. --[[User:Ir'revrykal|Ir'revrykal]] ([[User talk:Ir'revrykal|talk]]) 13:25, March 27, 2016 (UTC)

:Ah, they were just duplicates? I stand corrected. —[[User:Moviesign|Moviesign]] ([[User talk:Moviesign|talk]]) 14:16, March 27, 2016 (UTC)

==CSS question==

Hey there. Would it technically be possible to apply conditional formatting for refs? For example, change the background color of all refs containing {{Tl|Cite game}}. --[[User:Ir'revrykal|Ir'revrykal]] ([[User talk:Ir'revrykal|talk]]) 19:34, April 15, 2016 (UTC)

:I don't believe so. All citations, regardless of what type (game, book, web, ''etc.'') render as an ordered list with nothing to distinguish what template generated them. I could color all of them the same, but not individual references differently. The template itself could be modified to add color, but it would only be behind the text and not the whole reference block. Why would you want to do this anyway? We're trying to maintain a modicum of scholarly dignity here, in an area of fandom that is historically ridiculed. If our reference sections were candy-striped with color, that would clash with the overall color scheme of the wiki and look unprofessional in my opinion. —[[User:Moviesign|Moviesign]] ([[User talk:Moviesign|talk]]) 00:40, April 16, 2016 (UTC)

::Just looking at alternative solutions for handling video game refs, specifically a way of informing readers that those refs are "different" without necessarily relying on today's rather large canon templates. They kind of break up the text, especially in articles/sections where video game refs exist side by side with "proper" refs. Anyway, it was just an idea. If it's not feasible, I'll explore other avenues. Thanks for the swift response. --[[User:Ir'revrykal|Ir'revrykal]] ([[User talk:Ir'revrykal|talk]]) 04:48, April 16, 2016 (UTC)

:::I'm not sure I understand what you wish to do. Give me an example of what you are trying to fix. We can create citation templates for video game refs just as easily as other refs, if that's what you want. I don't understand what you think the readers need to know. —[[User:Moviesign|Moviesign]] ([[User talk:Moviesign|talk]]) 05:12, April 16, 2016 (UTC)

::::Take a look at [[Wizard slayer]] or [[Dabron Sashenstar]], for example. The multiple instances of {{Tl|Video game}} make the articles look somewhat ugly and unwieldy. I was looking for a potential solution where the wiki could clearly inform readers that information from video games is not as kosher as information from other sources, while reducing the eyesore factor by eliminating {{Tl|Video game}} in favor of something less distracting and more elegant. However, since conditional formatting for refs is not possible/not desireable, I'll try and whip up an alternate solution, probably using a variation of {{Tl|Ambox}} (so we can reduce both the size of the canon warning, as well as reduce the number of individual {{Tl|Video game}} variations). --[[User:Ir'revrykal|Ir'revrykal]] ([[User talk:Ir'revrykal|talk]]) 05:22, April 16, 2016 (UTC)

:::::Ah, I understand now. First, I think we need to inform the reader of the canon/non-canon nature of the text ''before'' they read it, not after. It is disappointing for those who seek to remain within the canon to read something and get excited about it, only to find out later that it's not canon, or came from a video game, or wherever. Changing the style of the references down at the bottom of the article would fall in the ''after'' column. The banners for the video games could certainly be given a facelift—how about something like [[User:Moviesign/BannerTest|this]]? We [[Forum:Wiki-wide Revision of Tags Using Scrolls|recently discussed]] changing the look of some of the other banners, so you could post your proposal there and get more opinions, if you wish. —[[User:Moviesign|Moviesign]] ([[User talk:Moviesign|talk]]) 13:02, April 16, 2016 (UTC)

::::::Alright, I can respect that logic. As for the banner theme, it's very cool, and I look forward to it being rolled out. For now, I mocked up a (very rough) proposal at {{Tl|Canon}}, see my user page for an example. Clearly my proposal would have to be reworked when the banner theme is launched, but it might make the wiki look a little bit better in the interim. --[[User:Ir'revrykal|Ir'revrykal]] ([[User talk:Ir'revrykal|talk]]) 13:08, April 16, 2016 (UTC)

:I'd like to change the functionality of {{Tl|Canon}}, but I think I need your help. I want the entire box content to switch based on a single given parameter (<code>bg</code>, for instance, so <code><nowiki>{{Canon|bg}}</nowiki></code> would be the desired format), instead of the current method of inputting <code>type=</code> and <code>text=</code>. I hope that makes sense. Could you lend me a hand? --[[User:Ir'revrykal|Ir'revrykal]] ([[User talk:Ir'revrykal|talk]]) 11:15, April 18, 2016 (UTC)

==Positive Energy vs. Radiance==

Hello! I have just seen that you added an article about the [[Quasielemental Plane of Radiance]] to the [[Positive Energy plane]] article as further reading. Per se these are different (though adjacent) planes. Is there something within the article also about the Positive Energy Plane, or was there a different reason for adding that there? Thanks for the info. [[User:Daranios|Daranios]] ([[User talk:Daranios|talk]]) 14:57, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

:I put it there because the Plane of Radiance doesn't have its own article and the Positive Energy plane was the next-best thing. The article is non-canon, but I didn't want to forget where I found it, so I stuck it in the appendix. Is there a better place to put it? —[[User:Moviesign|Moviesign]] ([[User talk:Moviesign|talk]]) 15:05, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

::Ah, yeah, could have guessed that. One ''could'' put it at the [[Great Wheel cosmology]], where the Quasielemental Plane of Radiance links to. I think I would slightly prefer that, but then again that article is awfully long and has so many subjects, that I am not sure what is better. [[User:Daranios|Daranios]] ([[User talk:Daranios|talk]]) 15:45, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

==Umberleant spell request==

Hello! Would you be interested in tackling the [[Umberlee|Umberlant]] spell ''[[waterspout]]'' from ''[[Faiths & Avatars]]'' (which in ''[[Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting 3rd edition]]'' becomes a more generic [[Ocean domain]] spell). I would have a bone to pick with the obscure arcane version of it afterwards. Cheers! [[User:Daranios|Daranios]] ([[User talk:Daranios|talk]]) 17:29, July 24, 2016 (UTC)

:Sure, I can do that. Probably tomorrow or soonish. —[[User:Moviesign|Moviesign]] ([[User talk:Moviesign|talk]]) 02:46, July 25, 2016 (UTC)

::Wow, that was fast. Thanks! I will add a bit about the existing arcane spell some time in the future. [[User:Daranios|Daranios]] ([[User talk:Daranios|talk]]) 19:50, July 25, 2016 (UTC)

==Thanks==

Dear Moviesign,

I'm Saya222 and I wanted to thank you for the userbox. I didn't know about the option. I'm indeed from Japan, though I do live for some years in Germany which is why I've changed the country. My thanks, I didn't know that the option existed.

I've got one question though and it may appear impolite but may I ask how you knew? I'm asking because I checked my account and it is not connected to facebook. Are there more privacy options to be found?

Again thank you for the userbox

Best Regards

Saya222

[[User:Saya222|Saya222]] ([[User talk:Saya222|talk]]) 15:39, August 7, 2016 (UTC)

:In your discussion with [[User:Tsammarco]], I think it was on the [[Talk:Vhaeraun]] page, you mentioned that you were translating the sourcebooks from Japanese, so I just guessed that was your native language and country. My apologies for getting it wrong, but I believed it would be easier to show you an example than ask if you wanted a userbox, and then explain what userboxes were, ''etc.''. They are just fun things to spice up your user profile. See [[User:Artemaz]] and [[User:Thomaslove92]] for some other examples. You can also request [[:Category:Userbox templates|userboxes]] if we don't already have one that covers a topic you would like to display. Welcome to the Forgotten Realms wiki, we hope you enjoy your time here :-) —[[User:Moviesign|Moviesign]] ([[User talk:Moviesign|talk]]) 15:57, August 7, 2016 (UTC)

::Dear Moviesign,

::I'm sorry for the late reply. Thank you for replying and I'm also sorry for causing a misunderstanding. I don't own any japanese sourcebooks, the reason that the translated ones often cost about four times the english ones, so that one is just ineptitude on my side with English.

::Also, thank you for directing me to characteristic user pages. I found Atemaz's page especially interesting with his to-do list.

::Again thank you and Best Regards

::Saya222

:::Dear Moviesign,

:::I just wanted to thank you for correcting my broken link. I'm sorry for that stupid mistake.

:::Best Regards

:::Saya222

::::Saya222, this is a communal effort and we are all made richer by the contributions of others. Thank you for your work to improve this wiki. —[[User:Moviesign|Moviesign]] ([[User talk:Moviesign|talk]]) 23:04, November 18, 2016 (UTC)

== Image Cats ==

Can you please be sure to categorize the images you add to the wiki? thanks! ~ ''[[User:Lhynard|Lhynard]]'' ([[User talk:Lhynard|talk]]) 21:33, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

:You beat me to it. I had to help with preparations for my second Thanksgiving dinner of the week. —[[User:Moviesign|Moviesign]] ([[User talk:Moviesign|talk]]) 21:46, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

:: Ah, ok. No worries, then. Two Thanksgiving dinners is definitely more important. :) ~ ''[[User:Lhynard|Lhynard]]'' ([[User talk:Lhynard|talk]]) 21:52, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

== A Curious Welcome ==

Hello, can you please clarify the comments you left on the Zhentil Keep talk page? I do not believe I've broken any of the rules you specify. The bulk of the content on that page was my contribution going back several years, all meticulously referenced with any egregious past tense issues attributable to other users. I appreciate your welcome, though I'm not new, but it came across rather accusatory.

[[User:Zhentar|Zhentar]] ([[User talk:Zhentar|talk]]) 08:34, December 6, 2016 (UTC)

:I don't know how you got "accusatory" out of that, but such are the vagaries of textual communication, I suppose. It was not my intention to wag a finger at you, just words of encouragement, an offer of assistance, and the usual litany of issues (past tense, plagiarism, canonicity) that we as admins deal with on a daily basis which you apparently felt was unnecessary—I apologize. —[[User:Moviesign|Moviesign]] ([[User talk:Moviesign|talk]]) 15:55, December 6, 2016 (UTC)

::I had interpreted your message as suggesting I had made those mistakes in my contributions. It appears I misunderstood your motivation for posting, so that would be on me. I do, however, have a question about references that seems to have me stuck. Im attempting to quote info from an Adventurers League handout. Specifically from the pdf titled "mulmaster_cloaks_logsheet.pdf" with a content title of "State of Mulmaster Article." I reviewed your posting on Nov 20 2016 regarding a template to use, however, the handout itself doesn't have a specific code. Its found in the Elemental Evil Players Pack here: http://www.dmsguild.com/product/170492/DDEX2-Elemental-Evil-Players-Pack-5e. I did my best to adopt it but seems some further tweaks or work are needed for it as the reference simply states "Template:Cite adventurers league." The code I attempted to use for a reference is:

::<code><nowiki><ref>{{Cite adventurers league

|url = http://www.dmsguild.com/product/170492/DDEX2-Elemental-Evil-Players-Pack-5e

|title = State of Mulmaster Article

|code = DDEX2

|designer = [[Greg Marks]]

|released = 2016-04-28

|accessdate = 2016-12-05

|storyline = Elemental Evil

|pages = {{{1|1-7}}}

}}</ref></nowiki></code>

::My attempt can be found at http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Zhentil_Keep#Post_Spellplague. What else should I do to set it up properly? Thanks.

::[[User:Zhentar|Zhentar]] ([[User talk:Zhentar|talk]]) 09:14, December 7, 2016 (UTC)

:::I put that template out for comments and since nobody commented on it for two weeks I made an executive decision and put it into production (just now). Your citation now renders properly. If this is a one-time reference, then we can leave it stand as it is, but if you want to refer to this document multiple times, perhaps with different page numbers, then we can make a specific template for this publication. —[[User:Moviesign|Moviesign]] ([[User talk:Moviesign|talk]]) 14:00, December 7, 2016 (UTC)

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