2012-09-08

‎Historical racism in Jehovah's Witnesses publications: new section

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I'd like to remind the community of my [[Wikiquote:Bots#Hazard-Bot|open bot request]], if anyone else is interested. [[User:Hazard-SJ|Hazard-SJ]] ([[User talk:Hazard-SJ|talk]]) 01:01, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

I'd like to remind the community of my [[Wikiquote:Bots#Hazard-Bot|open bot request]], if anyone else is interested. [[User:Hazard-SJ|Hazard-SJ]] ([[User talk:Hazard-SJ|talk]]) 01:01, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

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== Historical racism in Jehovah's Witnesses publications ==

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Wikiquote recently drew notice at the Wikipedia AN/I [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#WikiQuote] for changes made to [[Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania]]. The changes were self reverted by the same editor [http://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Watch_Tower_Bible_and_Tract_Society_of_Pennsylvania&action=historysubmit&diff=1481464&oldid=1480701] possibly due to intimidation at Wikipedia. As I write this the [[Talk:Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania|talk page]] for the article on Wikiquote does not exist.

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Now reading over the list of policies - many drawn from Wikipedia and not really obvious how to apply - I saw none to determine whether an article should exist or not. It seems weird to have a page of quotes ''by'' the ''Watchtower'' - sort of like having a page of "quotes from ''Molecular and Cell Biology''". But I suppose you have many pages about topics (e.g. [[Nature]]) and this is a formal name for the Jehovah's Witnesses organization. I have no idea how you decide such things.

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I ''am'' convinced that it is worthwhile to have quotes documenting a phenomenon regarding a religion, whether or not it is unpleasant; these quotes apparently drew notice from third party publishers and so aren't some editor's own hatchet job cut and pasted out of a box of archives. Adding so many to this general list does skew the impression - I don't know if you have a way to settle NPOV in Wikiquote articles, or how you do so even in theory based on simply the choice of quotes. One option might be to devolve the racial quotes to something like "Historical racism in Watchtower publications" etc. and link it from this page - no idea if that is common or accepted practice.

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I am also convinced that having editors called out on the carpet on Wikipedia for their Wikiquote activities is an invasion of Wikiquote's right to autonomous self development, and even the canvassing of editors from Wikipedia to go here and change things would be undesirable. I would urge those of you who are familiar with this site to settle on a solution to this issue and stand up for your rights. [[User:Wnt|Wnt]] ([[User talk:Wnt|talk]]) 18:40, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

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