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::::But, see, you've got the problem right there, in your quote. ''If'' that quote correctly describes the legal situation (and I'm not totally convinced about it, but that doesn't matter), it means that a mix of BY-NC content with BY-SA content will always end up being BY-SA content. The problem is: we are claiming that ''all'' our content is BY-NC, which in that case would no longer be correct and a breach of license. Also, having BY-SA content on one page might then spread to other pages, effectively turning this BY-NC wiki into a BY-SA wiki over time - something we don't want. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] ([[User talk:Cid Highwind|talk]]) 09:29, October 15, 2013 (UTC)
::::But, see, you've got the problem right there, in your quote. ''If'' that quote correctly describes the legal situation (and I'm not totally convinced about it, but that doesn't matter), it means that a mix of BY-NC content with BY-SA content will always end up being BY-SA content. The problem is: we are claiming that ''all'' our content is BY-NC, which in that case would no longer be correct and a breach of license. Also, having BY-SA content on one page might then spread to other pages, effectively turning this BY-NC wiki into a BY-SA wiki over time - something we don't want. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] ([[User talk:Cid Highwind|talk]]) 09:29, October 15, 2013 (UTC)
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:::::Well, technically, not ''all'' of your content is CC-BY-NC - you host fair use materials. But I'm just nitpicking, I know what you mean.
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:Well, technically, not ''all'' of your content is CC-BY-NC - you host fair use materials. But I'm just nitpicking, I know what you mean.
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:::::I turn to MA's [[Memory Alpha:Copyrights]] page for the following passage:
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:I turn to MA's [[Memory Alpha:Copyrights]] page for the following passage:
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::::::"If you contribute material to Memory Alpha, you thereby license it to the public under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial License. In order to contribute, you therefore must be in a position to grant this license, which means that either
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::"If you contribute material to Memory Alpha, you thereby license it to the public under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial License. In order to contribute, you therefore must be in a position to grant this license, which means that either
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:::::*you own the copyright to the material, for instance because you produced it yourself, or
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::*you own the copyright to the material, for instance because you produced it yourself, or
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:::::*'''''you acquired the material from a source that allows the licensing under a Creative Commons or similar license, for instance because the material is in the public domain or is itself published under Creative Commons License.'''''
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::*'''''you acquired the material from a source that allows the licensing under a Creative Commons or similar license, for instance because the material is in the public domain or is itself published under Creative Commons License.'''''
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::::::In the first case, you retain copyright to your materials. You can later republish and relicense them in any way you like. '''''In the second case, if you incorporate external Creative Commons License materials, as a requirement of the CCL, you need to acknowledge the authorship and provide a link back to the network location of the original copy.'''''"
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::In the first case, you retain copyright to your materials. You can later republish and relicense them in any way you like. '''''In the second case, if you incorporate external Creative Commons License materials, as a requirement of the CCL, you need to acknowledge the authorship and provide a link back to the network location of the original copy.'''''"
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:::::Wikipedia is both a) a source that allows licensing under Creative Commons and b) a source that publishes material under a similar license.
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:Wikipedia is both a) a source that allows licensing under Creative Commons and b) a source that publishes material under a similar license.
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:::::So, hopefully you can see where I got the impression that such content would be OK on Memory Alpha, given that the Copyrights page specifically states that similar licenses are OK.
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:So, hopefully you can see where I got the impression that such content would be OK on Memory Alpha, given that the Copyrights page specifically states that similar licenses are OK.
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:::::As I said, logistically, all you'd have to do is leave in the passage I added after 31dot's message which provided attribution and information about what the page's license would be.
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:As I said, logistically, all you'd have to do is leave in the passage I added after 31dot's message which provided attribution and information about what the page's license would be.
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:::::Again, if it's too much trouble and you guys aren't comfortable with it, that's OK. But, in that case, it might be worth updating the Copyrights page so that it isn't misleading. Best, [[Special:Contributions/205.200.18.71|205.200.18.71]] 17:20, October 15, 2013 (UTC)
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:Again, if it's too much trouble and you guys aren't comfortable with it, that's OK. But, in that case, it might be worth updating the Copyrights page so that it isn't misleading. Best, [[Special:Contributions/205.200.18.71|205.200.18.71]] 17:20, October 15, 2013 (UTC)
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::::Let me highlight a different part of that passage: '''If you contribute material to Memory Alpha, you [...] must be in a position to grant [the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial] license'''. Thanks for mentioning that parts of our policy might be unclear to some, we will try to make that part more clear. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] ([[User talk:Cid Highwind|talk]]) 17:36, October 15, 2013 (UTC)