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First off, I'm interested in what you folks generally consider to be the more appropriate specialization for the Inquisitor out of these two, especially for a faithful Inquisitor (Andrastian), especially Trevelyan (human noble). This is also considering the usefulness of the abilities, but primarily from a roleplaying point of view, as in what makes the best roleplaying sense considering all factors.
Secondly, some general pointers the way I see it:
'''Templar:'''
+ natural destination for a younger, non-inheriting male Trevelyan
+ typically associated with warriors of the faith
+ and good reputation as the people's defenders
+ abilities prepare the Inqusitor for just the sort of enemies he's most likely to face
+ abilities combine well with the Inqusitor's rift (Mark) abilities
+ this could be roleplayed as the Inquisitor being a sort of natural Templar (dialogue choices before Champions of the Just allow him to claim Andraste may have sent him to lead her templars)
+ if you saved Redcliffe mages, faithful Templars are scarcer and Vivienne suggests training some new ones, so why not the Inqusitor himself
+ you also kind of owe it to the Therinfal Templars you didn't save and all the Templars who sided with the Inquisition, which is part of taking responsibility for your decisions (or just assuage your guilt)
+ you need a powerful Templar if someone like Fiona or Alexius goes bad
+ Cory is Thedas's no. 1 apostate in need of Templar attention anyway
+ Templars evolved from the first Inquisition, the Inquisitor plays an important role in putting Templars (the Order itself or just the living former members) back on the right path, he's their leader etc., so it makes sense to have their training if not belong to the Order
+ … and just like a mage Inquisitor could set a good example as a mage, so could a Templar Inquisitor
+ abilities are good for Rift/Breach closing, which is the Herald's job and what the Mark is for
+ self-detonating combos like Mark of the Rift + Spell Purge for something to the tune of 4K damage sound like problem solving to me
+ the word 'inquisitor' suggests someone who investigates and solves problems and then goes away, not some sort of Cordilius Drakon reborn; Inquisitor is what you know you are, Herald is speculation
+ chugging lyrium to enhance the Mark kind of makes sense, especially after all the conversations about using the Templars or the Redcliffee Mages and actually using them to fuel you (the Templars too lend the Herald their energy, they don't directly target the Breach with anti-magic)
+ again, the abilities of the Inquisitor and of a Templar seem to combine well and fit naturally
+ a faithful but level-headed Inquisitor may think himself to have a clear mandate to stop Cory but necessarily to become the refounding father of all Thedas (distraction, pride etc.)
– Ser's attitude (trainer): some skills to not embarrass yourself and your Inquisition… not very inspiring
– there is increasing awareness that Templar abilities are not just augmented by lyrium, they simply come from inhuman lyrium abuse to the point where your sword glows and you smell funny, which is when you can channel the lyrium's own power to mess up real magic users' magic…
– … which quite possibly is a hard-counter specifically designed (if not originally, as they predate Circles, then at least later) for keeping Circle mages under lock and key more so than hunting dangerous apostates and demons to protect the people…
– … which is also destructive for Templars themselves (look at Evangeline or even Cullen)…
– … all of which is exactly what most Inquisitors and their advisors want to at least rationalize/heal (Cullen, Vivienne), reform (Cassandra) or outright abolish (Leliana), whereas the late Divine Justinia and perhaps some Inquisitors (including my own) keep the issue open and consider all options, don't claim to have the answers, etc., hence it might not be the best idea to train as a Templar now
– … and your Redcliffe mages will know and bitch to no end
– … and perhaps the Maker wants you and other Thedosians to quit holding on to the control Templar abilities provide (no cancelling people's magic at will by a non-mage, which may be the other side of the same coin with keeping mages locked in the sort of prisons that the stricter, more rigid Circles are)
– very gloomy and disillusioned theme, like a dense fog falling on you and converting the game to dark fantasy
– lyrium hunger is one more danger, one more constant battle
– focusing on your battlefield abilities distracts your attention from your leadership duties
Champion:
+ optimistic theme and more of a high fantasy feel, which is a welcome (if only partial) change in DA universe
+ trainer's attitude is optimistic and his explanation ties very well into the Inqusitor's mission, which he seems to care about
+ … which is broader than just sealing the rifts and stopping Cory, which might not even be his actual primary goals if he was sent by Andraste/the Maker as a response to the challenge of the times, this would embrace the Inquisitor's broader mission (Herald > Inquisitor)
+ according to Lord Chancer's feedback, you do succeed at bringing hope and inspiration
+ the Inquisitor ''is'' kind of a champion of the people, as Herald he is also some sort of champion of Andraste and has a patron like a normal champion is supposed to (sort of like being Andraste's own Michel/Loghain)
+ you can't know the Maker's will or Andraste's desires, but perhaps there's a reason the Herald/Inquisitor wasn't chosen from among Templars (Trev represented his family at the Conclave, and Templars don't do that, they represent their own order or the Chantry)
+ the Inquisitor is probably aware that he needs to keep up the PR in order to give people hope and a rallying point and some inspiration, so this needn't be stupid selfish attention-seeking
+ blocking choke points, stuff like Bulwark, Adamant, Unyielding etc. resembles what happened at Haven (and didn't need lyrium to happen)
+ taunting everybody on the field (Counterstrike, Champion's ultimate focus ability) is a good way to distract enemy attention from your party members, soldiers, allies, whoever needs to be led or saved, etc.
+ two-handed Inquisitors needn't even be proper passive tanks, they're more like walking fortresses that deliver Mighty Blows in between Whirlwinds and occasionally disrupt people's spells with a pommel to the head (a respected Templar technique)
+ opportunity to prove that even the worst sort of mage-generated nonsense can be sorted out without choking on lyrium and shooting anti-magic rays from one's eyes
+ no need to go to Cullen's rehab clinic after the game
+ for the leader of the kind of huge world-changing organization the Inquisition is, it makes sense to inspire the members and sympathizers (Champion's non-technical feature that's not reflected by the abilities) rather than relying on individual show-stopping abilities
+ there's enough on his plate already, he doesn't need lyrium hunger as one more enemy to battle all the time
– Orlesian-style naïve grandstanding and levity: board choked on apples tastes sweeter, seriously? basking in adulation? party favours? there's an unnumbered blight going on! (then again, Garahel…) and that's not what the sacrifice at Haven was for!
– drawing lines in the sand for self-stimulation, challenging people to duels, either to the death or for heraldic badges, connecting with the faux-spiritual legacy of other famous champions, what sort of Orlesian junior high is this? (this is mitigated somewhat if you believe Andraste made a point of choosing a secular knight to be her champion instead of elevating a Chantry Templar to Superknight-Worldcommander)
– Orlesian Grand Game circus is beneath the Inquisitor and part of exactly what needs fixing in Thedas
– Champion abilities don't seem to combine as naturally with the Inquisitor's Rift/Mark abilities as Templar abilities do
– melee attacks are not the Inquisitor's biggest problem, not even in casual mob fights
– you have a clear mandate to stop Cory, the rest is speculation and may well be pride (non-mages aren't immune to possession)
Anything I missed? [[Special:Contributions/89.77.149.167|89.77.149.167]] ([[User talk:89.77.149.167|talk]]) 13:46, January 12, 2017 (UTC)NewbieOneKenobi