When we last spoke to Mindless Self Indulgence they were preparing to release Kickstarter funded album How I Learned To Stop Giving A Shit And Love Mindless Self Indulgence. We caught up with front man Jimmy Urine on the eve of their performance at The Liquid Rooms in Edinburgh.
Alright, this is Lisa Fox and today I’m interviewing Jimmy from Mindless Self Indulgence.
Hi, this is Jimmy from Mindless Self Indulgence; and maybe I am interviewing Lisa Fox.
Well, maybe. [laughs] So what would you ask me if you were going to interview me?
How YOU doing?
I’m very well, thank you.
See, I keep it simple like. It’s like a morning talk show to me.
You look very fresh faced.
Well, thank you. I don’t know how. [laughs] But it works, running around and jumping around like an idiot, though it helps.
So how is the tour going?
Great. We started out in Germany; did some German shows. Then we went into Russia which is ‘no man’s land’ crazy people; and then I came down sick and we went to Sweden, Denmark and all that; which was nice and so high class is a good place to get sick. And then we came around into the UK, and now here we are in skiddly old Scotland.
You had a long drive last night up from Norwich. Did you just sleep on the bus?
Yeah. [laughs]
That’s total rock and roll!
Well, it’s the best. I highly recommend it.
So, have you got to see much of Edinburgh? Or have you just arrived?
No, I woke up late today. Everybody else went and they ate this fucking place over here; I think it’s called Pork something… I missed it. It looked so good. But no, I slept late. I don’t know why I was up late, I was watching movies. And so, I woke up and I just rolled out into this fucking, I don’t know, what is it? A Church or it used to be a School or something? I don’t know what the fuck it is. And yeah, that’s about the only thing. And then they gave me the after show menu, and it was Mexican food; and I way like “I am not eating Mexican food in Scotland!” I was like “Here is ten pounds. Somebody go and get me a motherfucking Shepherd’s pie, right the fuck now!” And so there is a little Shepherd’s pie sitting in my bunk on my pillow.
So you are all going to be thinking like “Oh, we all love the band!” And if you want to know what I’m thinking while I am on stage tonight, it is going to be “There’s a Shepherd’s pie in my bunk! There’s a Shepherd’s pie in my bunk! There’s a Shepherd’s pie in my bunk! Let’s go, let’s get this the fuck over with!”
So that you can eat you Shepherd’s pie.
Yeah, I’m going to eat a Shepherd’s pie tonight.
So why did you go blonde? This is different?
I just wanted to match. I have bleached and coloured before, I just haven’t been in while; so I had the black Mohican before I had black spikes, and so then I was like “I feel like doing a blondish Mohawk.” And then it’s always nice because of the white outfit and tonight’s Space Hobo in the bigger cities I do Space financial banker where it’s a little more of a suit. But the suit gets a little bit hot; so for the small shows I tend to go with Space Hobo who can get dirty and down, and see all the dirt from I think this is from Norwich here and a little bit of Birmingham over here.
So, tell me about the new album, How I Learned to Stop Giving a Shit and Love Mindless Self Indulgence?
We released it in March, it was a kick starter. Everybody got sent out the kick starter record, the MP3s, the CDs, vinyl’s and all that out in March. Then we went on tour in the US and sold a different version of it, which had some extra B sides. And then we licensed it to a record company and then had some more B sides on that.
And how has it been received?
Great, everybody loves it. Nobody has a problem with it. I like it, we went in to write a good Mindless record. We were like “Well, we’re Mindless Self Indulgence. We do Mindless Self Indulgence well, nobody else does Mindless Self Indulgence! So let’s do a Mindless Self Indulgence record!” Very in-your-face and who gives a fuck? And we had no rules to really follow; so somebody could be like “That could be a hit but maybe you shouldn’t say fuck!” “Nah! Fuck it, we’ll just call it Fuck Machine!” So that was pretty well received. People in the end were like “Oh great! They still sound cool, they still sound relevant, and they still sound like they are doing their own thing very well.” We’re not trying to reinvent the will or join the dub step revolution and just trying to make a nice smile, though it will be gone before I even find out where it is.
So how do you think the Mindless Self Indulgence have kept going when so many bands have come and gone in the time that you have been together?
We invented our own sound, our own style, and our own way of thinking. And we always have had control over that; and nobody has ever really said “Oh, you need to dress like this!” or “We’re going to get you a stylist!” or anything like that. We are just like “Oh, we’ll wear this!”
And not only are we cartoon characters in our own right; it’s like a little Justice League, Batman does his thing, Superman has this thing, Wonder Woman is doing that thing, and so on and so forth.
But all our different styles and different ideas come from everybody in the band, and just happen to sync up pretty well. So if Kitty is watching K pop and decides she is going to sew giant epaulets made out of spikes on the side of her thing because she saw some G-Dragon do it in a video, that is her thing, that’s not my thing. But it fits with my thing.
If I am watching some rough Bachi film and I see something, and I am like “Oh, I am going to do this! I am going to do an all-white outfit” And whenever we show up at the beginning of the tour, everybody is like “Oh, fuck! We match!” [laughs]
You’re lucky, you’ve had pretty much had the same line up since the beginning. No one’s left or fallen out.
No. And we like that, it ain’t broke so don’t fix it, we really enjoy being with each other.
That’s another big difference. See we’re not really like musicians, the is much more of an art project. I think a lot of people are like “They’re musicians, and they put an ad in the paper, they’re like “Oh, I want to meet some guy.” They are in their teens, maybe their twenties and they go “Oh, I met this guy. And we get along, he plays drums and I play guitar, and this guy sings.” And then later when they have a giant fucking Welcome to the Jungle hit, they find out that this guy is fucking insane. this guy is all on drugs. This other guy is on fucking drugs, and this guy is incredibly talented and he is leaving the band to do a solo project. And the whole thing falls apart even if they make a million dollars.
With us, it was more like, I had an idea to do a certain style of music; and I wanted to do it with my friends. So I just found the friends that could play instruments. And it was like “Hey, Kitty. Can you play the drums? Oh, great! Cool! And you happen to be a great graphic designer and do also this shit. Cool, let’s just have fun and do our project!” So that makes the longevity behind the scenes really easy because we enjoy each other’s company very, very much. So from on the bus together, nobody is being weird and doing fucking heroin or anything; someone is watching a movie in front “Oh, I want to watch this movie! Let’s watch Hot Fuzz again!” “Okay, cool.”
So it makes it for a very enjoyable experience. I am hanging out with my friends in my mum’s basement since I have been eighteen, forever. So it’s great. And we get to go town to town and throw a party in our honour every night…that we host. So it’s kind of interesting; it’s fun.
Given everything that has gone on with the Lost Prophets in the last couple of months it’s good to see bands that actually are close to each other; and don’t have anything to hide.
Oh, god. Yeah. That’s the nuttiest thing I have ever fucking heard. And even when they charged him back in December, and everybody was like “It’s a conspiracy to do something to a kid” and he was like “I’m not guilty.” I was like “Oh, maybe it’s some weird thing like he called someone up and was totally drunk” and he said something like “I am going to fuck a kid!” and he just said something out of turn. And then at the end he’s like “No! Guess what? I fucking did it! And there’s all this video evidence, and this was my password, “I screw children”, or something.”
What a fucking jerk off, man! What a fuck! I can’t believe that. That’s one of the nuttiest things I have ever heard. And the thing that’s weird too, like I know who they are because we’ve come to England a bunch of times. They can’t get arrested in America, they were huge here, they were platinumy platinum here. When they would come by us, they would do a festival here or there, or they would do a couple of thousand seaters. But it wasn’t like it was Lostprophets mania, in America. So it must be even more fucked up for you people; where you are just like “He’s the greatest, oh I love him.”
And then like “Wow! Not what we were expecting!”
I know, it’s a huge controversy and the media of course is all over it.
I bet.
I do feel sorry for his band members.
Those are the guys I feel sorry for the most. I have got to say, they probably had no fucking clue, they probably just thought it was “Oh, this guy is a pervert! But he’s probably fucking a lot of chicks!”
They thought he was just a normal pervert.
Normal. Yeah, we’re normal perverts; but that’s going way, way over the line. That’s not even partially over the line, that’s way the fuck over the line. Do you know what I mean? I was talking to somebody the other day, I was like “Rock and Roll history is Rock and Roll history.” I am sure Keith Richards, back in the sixties, fucked a bunch of fucking girls who were seventeen, and who were trying to get backstage, and all that type of shit. Not that I condone that, but you can look back at history and see that that obviously happened. All those girls, even the famous groupies, were all fucking under age…but going and fucking a little kid? Do that and he’s going to die! He is over; that motherfucker is over.
Right now I have a pool going “Is he so narcissistic that he is going to go all the way into prison? Where he obviously is going to get fucking gang raped, immediately! Or is he going to pull the rug from everybody and kill himself?” That’s the pool that is going on, on the bus.
I am thinking that he is going to not let anybody get any justice, and he’s going to kill himself… Oh, that’s the big thing that we’re wondering about. Who the fuck are these girls? Do you know what I mean? A dude going out and being a paedophile, and being an insane person is one thing; but convincing someone to bring ‘your’ child….’your’ child! They didn’t kidnap some kid off the fucking street. Those bitches have got to go way down. This guy is an arsehole, he’s going to go to prison and get gang raped for the rest of his life. These bitches have got to go down, they have got to go down.
So what have you guys been doing on the tour other than just performing? Have you had fun? Have you been doing crazy shit? Not fucking babies presumably. [laughs]
Oh, fuck no! Fuck that guy! Dude, that’s fucking wrong And there’s so many stories and memes now coming out that are really really bad. It’s like, I don’t know how I feel about it; it is like it’s a little too soon. The thing is though,its shocking before the jokes come out. Like a kid, Jesus Christ! Poor fucking kids.
Are you just drinking coffee?
It is actually tea It’s a little tea and a lot of honey. I like tea all of the time but mainly I just drink a medicated tea called throat coat, and that’s great. I don’t know what’s in it, it just tastes nice and it goes good with honey and stuff.
I don’t really tea it up like you guys do. I’m not a coffee drinker either. Tea, every so often; but I live in California, so tea is kind of obsolete because it’s so fucking hot all the time. So I’m like “I don’t need tea!”
I don’t know, they drink tea out in Africa and certain places. Like red bush tea…
[Whispers] Because they’re fucking crazy!
We like coming abroad because there’s stuff we don’t have at home; so we go out for the food, Kitty goes shopping all the time, so we try to get out and usually we’re parked up on a high street somewhere, so there is always shops and things; because we’re in a foreign country. If I got to Alabama or Mississippi, it’s like “Big fucking deal! I’ve got a Wal Mart in my back yard and there’s a Costco around the corner, and Target!”
But here, I don’t have a Primark at home and Primark is fucking bananas good! That shit is cheap and it all fits me because you have all those thing, young, tall boys here. So it’s like a million small, tall, thin, long things and I’m like “This is so easy!” So yeah, we all love coming here.
So what can we expect from show tonight? Is it going to be more Mindless Craziness?
Of course. Well, this is interesting; people always ask a lot of that question and they always go “Oh, so what can we expect?”. For somebody who has never seen Mindless Self Indulgence “What can you expect? What can you tell them?” and what I do tell them, this is an interesting story, is I was at a Comic Book Convention a couple of months ago and I was just dressed like normal, had a hat on, and everything; not every recognizable. And so kid recognized me and was like “Hey! You’re Jimmy Urine from Mindless Self Indulgence!” and I was like “Yeah” and he’s like “Could you sign something?”.
So I am signing something and he’s like “Hey man, I saw you when you came by LA last time and it was really great; and you guys were amazing. But you totally fucked me up because I have seen ten shows since then, and they have been the most boring, boring fucking shows ever. You guys have ruined fucking music and going to shows for me because nothing has been as good as you guys.” So that’s what you can expect, for us to ruin the music for you. So if you really want to go and see a boring band like Black Veil Brides, I suggest you do it now. Because by the time I’m done with you, you are never going to want to see a Black Veil anything!
Why do you have a ‘F’ drawn on your hand?
Oh, it’s not just an F. It’s an F U.
Oh, okay. It’s “off”. OR “uff..”
So for you guys it’s an F U; and for me it’s “Oh, fuck!”
Do you like doing the smaller shows?
It depends. We did the Koko in London, and that’s a nice, big place; and you get a different reaction. In a bigger place you have more room to run around, and you have more of audience; so you can kind of control in a larger way. There is more grandiose gestures. If it’s smaller, it is a more punk rock thing. I can do a little bit just for you in the front row; and you will see it and get it. And if I am talking to you and I’m hardly even talking to Mike, everybody is going to hear it.
So it’s interesting, we did Norwich yesterday and it was a very MSI show for MSI we were literally like “Alright, fuck you. We’re going to just do our own show!” And I was having a thing on the drums and having a conversation with Kitty and Steve was chiming in, and you could hear everything. So it was fun.
Is it still a Mindless Self Indulgence?
It is. It is still a Mindless Self Indulgence somewhat. Mindless Self Indulgence is kind of like something that you do that you just can’t help doing but you like doing it. It is like smoking; you know it’s bad for you but “Fuck it! I won’t let you do it.”
I’m going to sit down and have a Shepherd’s pie; it might come out the other end a little bit bad but I don’t care, as long as it goes in the right way, it’s going to taste delicious!”
And Shepherd’s pie is your self-indulgence?
Yes, well tonight Shepherd’s pie is my self-indulgence. I’m in fucking Scotland; I am not going have a god damn burrito I can get that any day.
You could have had a haggis or something. Have a deep fried haggis!
I could have had a deep fried haggis but I’ve been dying for Shepherd’s pie ever since I got over here, and I’m going to have it.
You’re here the right side of Christmas, do you like Christmas?
Yeah, I forgot that. Because you guys don’t have Thanksgiving because that was us escaping you.
But I forgot that you guys have Super Christmas because it’s been Christmassy Christmas everywhere we go. And I’m a little bit out of it in the sense that this is that time of the year where it’s Halloween, it’s Thanksgiving, it’s Christmas; there is one after the other in America. But we have been away for all that; so I don’t even know what day it is and people were texting me “Happy Thanksgiving” I thought it was a joke. And then I got four more and I was like “Oh, Fuck! It is Thanksgiving!”
It’s the same with Christmas; I am totally out of loop, I am like “I’ve got to think of all the things that I have got to buy everybody and shit!” and I’m just like “Oh, what the fuck do I want to get everybody for Christmas?”
So I’m not going to deal with that until I get home; but I like Christmas, I do, I think it’s fun.
When do you get home?
I think we have six or seven more shows and then we fly out of Frankfurt and we go home.
And what is the plan for the future then?
Well, we are doing this today [laughs]. I’m going to do the show today.
Good. That’s a good start.
That’s a good start.
Finish the tour; we just had a single come out, a digital single of It gets worse which has two new B sides on it, one of which I really like. I threw it together in a couple of minutes called those words.
And then in January we have a remix record coming out which remixes the songs up on How I Learned To Stop Giving A Shit And Love Mindless self-Indulgence. And I think it is called the Fuck Machine remix because it is me in the fuck machine. Then we have got a lot of fun people, usual crowd, people that we love like [unclear 15:56] Combichrist and Mustard Pimps, and a couple of new people like Joey Blush and some odds and ends, and some stuff from my lovely wife. And then that comes out in January and then we have got a couple of videos in production, I wanted to do a lot of animated videos because everybody likes animation.
But that takes a while and you’re always calling people and they are sending you tests; and then they are calling you and showing you where they are. I was like “No deadlines guys.” Just try to get it by whatever, one by the end of the year or one before the year runs out and that kind of shit, just so that I can put them out in little spurts and spats.
So then I going to start booking next year and next year. I am going to get to the end of this year and then I’m going to flush 2013 down the god damn toilet! Thank god! Dude, 2013 has been the worst. It has been the worst. Business wise, it has been great; but people have been losing their motherfucking minds. It’s just like everywhere, this gear feels like four years in one. It’s fucking crazy. All the shows and everything are great but I always just hear about people going nuts and getting divorces. What the fuck? Stay away.
But you guys have managed to keep your relationship going very well.
Oh, no. Us, we’re fine. It is just peripheral. People we know are friends or people we know are friends of my dad’s or passing away, all sorts of weird shit like that. So it’s close to home, it just seems like it’s a lot this year. Lots of weird things happening, but us, we are great. We are all fine and all our relationships are great and we all love our spouses and everything. So that’s all fantastic.
Oh by the way, I played your computer game that you were in, Lollipop Chainsaw.
Oh, yeah.Oh, you still call it a computer game? Look at you.
Should I call it a video game?
A video game, yeah.
It was very bizarre getting to kill you.
It’s cool. Yeah, right? Well, it’s a cool combo because first off I am doing the music for it, so it is my music. I am doing the voice for the character who kind of looks like me but not exactly. But then you can dress the lead girl up in my outfit from back in the day, my pink outfit which looks amazing; the guys who designed it, I gave them pictures and I sat there with them and we went back and forth.
And so that, to me, is like the most bizarre thing. So it’s like I am yelling at a character dressing up like me while my music is playing in the background. And it was a great game too. It was fun to work with all those people; James Gunn was really great and the whole company was really great. Scott over there at Warner Brothers was amazing, so it was really fun. And you can kill me as much as you want. It’s a little hard but once you get the tricks, then you kind of know it. But it’s a good first boss because I’m really, what do you call it? Full of myself. So I’m all like “I want to do it maybe. What the fuck?” But I really like all the letters that come out at you, that was a really nice touch, really smart stuff.
If your life was a game, what game do you think it would be?
Oh my god! I would hope it would be Megaman Legends because I like playing that game. Anything Megaman related. Just because it’s a great game, sixteen bit. A lot of couch punch and I didn’t fucking mean to do that, I got to get to the boss. Also, that was one the first, not cheating games but you can think outside of the box; because most scrollers and everything were always you had to go down this path, you couldn’t go backwards, you couldn’t go left or right. The great thing about Megaman that I gravitated towards more than Super Mario was that you could pick the certain bosses that you wanted to fight. So if you fought one boss, who was like an ice boss and then you get his superpower; then when you did the fire level, it was easy because you had all his ice and you could throw it. So you could plan the best way to beat the whole game by attacking certain bosses in a certain order; and that was kind of the beginning. Now, I love an open ended; like a Grand Theft Auto, I’ll just turn it on and I won’t even play the fucking plot, I will just steal cars and try to jump things off of buildings, because that is what I like, I like a sand box tile like Minecraft has stolen many, many days and many nights of my life. Because it is just open ended and I think people think certain ways; some people are very good at doing certain things the way that society set it up, and other people thing way outside of the box whether it’s good for them or not. Which is why school is so weird for certain people, because it’s made for an industrialised nation; it’s made for you to be made into a worker bee. And if you don’t think like that, people are like “Oh, you’re a fucking retard!” or it’s like “No, this kid might be a fucking genius! He just needs a different way to look at education.”
Deep. Video games are getting fucking deep.
[Laughs] Actually, Rockstar who make Grand Theft Auto are based just around the corner.
Oh, yeah? That’s cool. It is really cool how you guys get shit on by England but America fucking digs it.
Well, we’re trying to break away from them.
Yeah I know. I’m like “Jesus Christ! You’re so far north, you just fucking put up a wall already!”
Well they did once, that was Hadrian’s Wall; once upon a time but that more to keep us out then to keep them out.
And now you got all the cool shit…But I heard that the Harry Potter books were written here.
They were, yeah.
So what the fuck, man? They stole that shit from you; everybody in America thinks Harry Potter is English. I’m like “No, it’s fucking basically Scottish! Come on man!”
Having said that, I am Irish; so I’m just being a complete fraud.
Oh, it’s alright. Close enough. You’re up here anyway, England doesn’t like the Irish for a long fucking time either, but we all hate the English.
So why did you move to California?
Oh, just because there’s three things I really, really like; I like sushi, I like swimming, and I like sex. And now I do them constantly in California; and I love that and it’s fun. It’s a giant fucking vacation, it’s like a permanent motherfucking vacation; you just hang out, every day is beautiful and you don’t have to worry about the weather. I did New York to the T; and now New York to me is gentrified, it’s not like a dirty, fun, arty city or you can maybe find a cool, old apartment that is kind of run down but you will fix it up and it only costs like five hundred pounds or something like that.
Everything there is expensive as fuck, it’s not really cool and funky like it was back in the day. Everything has been cleaned up, there is no abandoned buildings, there is no drug dealers on a corner or anything; any kind of danger or any cool CD gay club, or anything weird. It’s all very straight ahead, it’s like “I might as well be in fucking Denmark at this point. So I was like “Fuck it. If I am going to move, I’m not moving to Long Island. I’m not moving to fucking New Jersey. If I am moving out of the city, I’m moving way the fuck out of the city. And with this job, I can do the job anywhere. I can move to fucking Scotland if I want. And just meet the band and be like “Alright, let’s go on tour! I can write music anywhere.
And do you make enough money out of it to actually live?
Well, I wouldn’t fucking do it if I didn’t! Are you kidding me?
Is it a job?
Fuck yes, it’s a job! I’ve said this since minute one; bullshit on all those motherfucking people who are like “Yeah man, I do it for the music.” I’m like “No you fucking don’t!” If you had to do this every single fucking day and nobody paid you, eventually you would say “I don’t want to fucking do it anymore!”
I’m sorry but it’s a fucking job. It’s a great fucking job, but it’s still a job. It’s still like we work, we made a mom and pop store. I think that is the other thing that’s interesting, I think a lot of people who are musicians want to be musicians but what they don’t realize is that if they get any amount of success, even a medium amount of success, you all of the sudden have a business. So you have all these insane, idiot people who didn’t want to work in the first place. All of the sudden all they wanted to do was rock out, all the sudden they’re in control of this business. And there is all these weird middle men in between, all these managers who are all kind of like “Argh” and that’s why they get their shit stalling and their fucking money.
You only learn when you show up at your business manager and he’s like “Oh, yeah. Nobody has paid your taxes for two years, so you owe the government fifty thousand dollars and that’s why you are only getting paid ten grand this year. We’re like “What?” All of the sudden you have to be like “Alright, now I actually have to be somewhat responsible and figure out how to run this as a business. So there’s a mom and pop shop. It’s been a mom and pop shop since way back, since the early to mid-2000s once we started getting very independent. And that is how it’s run, it is run like a mom and pop shop. If there’s no money coming; if we were just playing tonight for zero, we wouldn’t be here. I like jumping around; and I like jumping around this group of people but all of us agree that if there was no money to be made, what is the fucking point?
You do attract some interesting characters, this band.
Yeah but it’s fun. People always think that because we’re so wacky and the fans are so wacky, that it’s like “Oh, it’s dangerously wacky and it’s crazy!” it’s like “No, it’s like Rocky Horror Picture Show. That’s what I mainly equate it to. If I had equate Mindless to something, I don’t equate it to a band. I equate it to Rocky Horror Picture Show because you see a line outside, crazy dressed kids, they all know what is going on; people who are new are the virgins, they don’t know exactly how it’s supposed to go down. People come in and they know where their supposed to sing and what their supposed to say, they know how I am going to interact with them and they understand the whole thing. They bring weird things to shows. It runs like a fucking Rocky Horror Picture Show. And I like that, there’s characters, everybody loves who we are and it’s very cool.
Are you going to do anymore comics or anything?
I would like to do more comics. I love doing comics; comics are fun. And that was a really fun comic and it was really smart to do it based on the band; real stories that we always tell and just think as really good artists. So it was really great; I definitely love to do it all. And I like bands that are like that; I like entertaining bands, and we have become one of those bands that are who they are; The Cramps are a good example, Gwar are a good example. They never really turned into something else and never became a pop-ier version of the Cramps, they just were always the Cramps, they would always role into town, play some thousand seater; all the gothic, psychobilly kids would come out; we would all go and see it. Lux would rip a couple of fucking microphones apart and destroy everything while I would be just playing the guitar. They would check out town, sell their merch, they would split and maybe next year they would come by and then do the same thing. And that is the band that we are. We are Mindless Self Indulgence and we do Mindless Self Indulgence really well; and if you want Mindless Self Indulgence, you have to come to us to get it because no one else does that.
So how do the British responses to your music compare to American ones?
I think that the main thing is that you guys get all the really simple, dry humour; and the taking piss. A good example is America gets some of it and doesn’t get some of it; but if I go to Germany, where they don’t really have a sense of humour, they don’t understand me making fun of them or making fun of myself, or making fun of any of that. “Why would you do that? Why would you say this joke? I don’t understand. Why would you do this?” That is what they are asking me; whereas here I could do the most subtle joke and you guys would get it because we were raised on like Monty Python and Mighty Boosh, and fucking like IT Crowd, The Young Ones and all this shit. We loved all that stuff and we grew up with all that stuff; and so we get it and you get it. So it is very simple to just be like “Ha” and then everybody goes, “Ooh, Ahh”
Finally, tell me something that we don’t know about you or the band.
I don’t know about me; I have been very truthful these last couple of years. It’s funny, I’ve gotten a couple of questions like that, where people are like “Tell me something I have never heard!”
Damn, I thought I was being original.
No, it’s a good question. And all those other people who were asking were also original.
It’s so funny because the last seven or eight years, all my interviews are like “Fuck, here’s everything. Here’s all the truth coming at you.” I am trying to think if there is something interesting or even an antidote.
[pause]
I don’t know, I wasn’t expecting a question like that. I can’t think if there’s anything. And the thing that is fucked up because I am going to be in the bunk tonight eating my Shepherd’s pie, I’m going to be like “Oh, that’s what I thought of!”
“That would have been a really fucking good story.”
They don’t know that I do that. Kids don’t know. The only thing that I would say is that if you’re at a Mindless Self Indulgence show and you don’t think that we can see you, we can see you.
If you are online outside, we are probably watching you. If you’re in the club and we are in some weird backstage that has an access door that we can look out and see, we are probably looking at you. So we’re watching all the time, for sure. We know everybody, we see who is coming in. We look at the line and we’re like “Oh, look at this motherfucker coming. Why the hell did he come up with those pair of pants; he must have built those himself!” We will check everybody out and be like “Oh, man. That girl, look, she made something. She made a statue of my head!”, “How the fuck? She’s going to take that in the show!”
So we watch all the time; we’re lookers.
Thank you so much for your time, you’ve been lovely!
Interview by: Lisa Fox