Candidates look to take down Donald Trump amid more controversy
San Bernardino and national security to be focus of fifth showdown
Lindsey Graham to Muslims in Round One: ‘You are not the enemy’
Plus: Join the Guardian’s real-time debate chat on WhatsApp
2.23am GMT
Blitzer asks Carson who was right between Rubio and Paul. Carson says he doesn’t want to get between them.
2.22am GMT
Q for Carson about monitoring. “First of all just let me complain a little bit,” he says. He hasn’t gotten to speak enough.
Then his answer on surveillance of mosques and other sites: “Let’s get rid of all of the PC stuff.” He says the Muslim Brotherhood “takes advantage of our PC attitude.”
2.21am GMT
Guardian US columnist Trevor Timm – an actual expert on surveillance and the NSA – chimes in, and not for the first time after that whole back-and-forth:
Carly Fiorina just described how, as Hewlett Packard CEO (where she was universally derided as a disaster), she turned a truckload of computers around and sent it straight to the NSA after 9/11.
Put aside the fact that the American public expressed outright disgust toward secret collusion around mass surveillance between tech companies and the government after the Snowden revelations. Fiorina’s inference that she can persuade tech companies to install backdoor encryption “because she knows them” shows how little she actually knows about technology.
2.21am GMT
Christie says his eyes have glazed over. “Endless debates about how many angels dance on a head of a pin by people who have never had to make these decisions in an executive position.”
He says that in New Jersey he prosecuted terror cases and stopped a plot against Fort Dix by using the Patriot Act to gather intelligence.
2.19am GMT
Rand Paul, who definitely has a cold, says metadata collection just produces too many records and we can’t read them all. He says border security and checks are more important than bulk collection.
Paul says that Rubio “is the weakest of all the candidates on immigration.” Finally a rival calls out Rubio at a debate for his relative moderation on the immigration issue.
2.17am GMT
Q for Rubio: You voted against the Freedom Act. Why?
Rubio says, radical jihadism is increasingly sophisticated. “This is not just the most capable, it is the most sophisticated threat we have ever faced.”
2.14am GMT
Q for Cruz. You voted for the USA Freedom Act which moved phone records to phone companies.
Cruz: That’s an inaccurately premised question. The act ended collection of bulk collection of metadata on law-abiding citizens. But also “gave us greater tools” to go after terrorists.
Explaining his vote for USA Freedom Act, Ted Cruz said the bill was designed "to reform how we target bad guys."
2.12am GMT
Q for Kasich. How do you find an attacker like Farook who was a US citizen on no watch list?
Kasich answers, Troops on the ground, like we had in the first Gulf war. The Saudis have organized 34 countries to fight terrorism.
2.11am GMT
Q for Christie. It’s about the LA school closures. Is this the new normal?
Christie says “unfortunately it’s the new normal under Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.”
2.09am GMT
Question for Fiorina. Is keeping people out a good thing for the GOP to stand for?
FIorina says people are looking for solutions. She digs at Trump, not by name but criticizing “entertainers” seeking “attention.”
The iPad was invented in 2010, not 2011. Certainly the only thing they'll get wrong tonight. #GOPDebate
2.07am GMT
Question for Cruz. How do you disagree with Trump’s Muslims ban?
Everyone understands why Donald has made the suggestion he has, Cruz says. It’s because Obama engages in doublespeak on the terror issue.
I’m reminded of what FDR’s grandfather said... All horse thieves are Democrats, but not all Democrats are horse thieves... there are millions of Muslims in countries across the world, in places like India,” that do not present a terror threat, he says.
2.05am GMT
Rubio is asked about a poll showing a majority of Republicans support Trump’s proposal for a ban on Muslims. Rubio has opposed the proposal.
Rubio says he understands why people feel that way. He calls Isis the most sophisticated terror group America has ever faced. He says Isis has spread to Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen and Jordan.
2.04am GMT
Trump is booed! For attacking Bush. This crowd seems against Bush.
Trump says Bush called him unhinged because Bush’s campaign is going poorly while Trump’s campaign, in contrast, is great.
2.02am GMT
Q for Bush: Why is a plan to ban Muslims unhinged?
Donald is great at the one-liners, but he is a chaos candidate, and he would be a chaos president.
2.01am GMT
First Q is for Trump. About his proposed ban on Muslim entries to USA as well as his plan for a wall in the south.
Is isolation a good plan?
I will build a wall, it will be a great wall,” he says.
1.59am GMT
Paul: Trump says ‘we ought to close that internet thing.’ That’s like North Korea. Rubio says we should collect Americans’ records. The constitution says that’s wrong. [Paul has a pretty solid cold? It sounds like he has a clothespin on his nose.] “I think if we want to defeat terrorism, we need to quit arming the allies of Isis, he says. How long are these opening statements. There it is, bell. Today is the Bill of Rights’ anniversary. Big cheering section for Paul.
Kasich: My daughter does not like politics because there’s too much loud fighting. She’s right. People need jobs and rising wages. We’ll never get there if we’re divided. We need to unify as Americans. Less applause for Kasich.
Just now. LA Mayor Garcetti: "The FBI has determined this is not a credible threat."
Ben Carson wants Congress to declare war on Isis. COINCIDENCE: So does Obama.
1.59am GMT
EVERY b word?
From US opinion editor Megan Carpentier:
Carly Fiorina’s opening statement started off well, and then she sort of went off the rails, declaring she’d been ‘tested’ for the presidency by being called ‘every B-word in the book’ and having breast cancer and burying a child and having started as a secretary and having people be mean about her candidacy.
But if people calling a woman a ‘bitch’ is part of qualifying for political power – and it might be – then every woman in the US over the age of about 12 is on the way to qualifying for the presidency.
What are the other b-words in the book?
1.53am GMT
Tonight, call him “Wolf Glitzer.” #LasVegas #GOPDebate pic.twitter.com/dnyQEhHkjJ
From Guardian US columnist Jeb Lund, comin’ atcha from the Vegas Strip:
The best part of Wolf Blitzer’s moderation is the over-emphasis he uses when stating that he actually is the moderator. ‘As moderator, I’ll guide the discussion,’ he said, welcoming us to the primetime debate with the sort of emphasis a child dressed like a fireman uses when saying, ‘I’m the fireman.’ This is the sort of Life As Tautology that only happens to you when you are that empty of a suit.
1.48am GMT
They’re already taking notes. They’re taking notes about Wolf Blitzer’s rules? Lots of red ties up there tonight. Fiorina in a red dress. Kasich and Carson in blue, it looks like.
1.46am GMT
Vocalist Ayla Brown is back, this time to sing the national anthem (before she sang God Bless America).
She’s good. CNN chryons her as a singer/entertainer.
1.44am GMT
Who gets the biggest applause? Rand Paul got a lot of kind of giddy yelping. Donald Trump sort of got razzed a bit? Not quite booed but jeered?
Rubio gets the applause win. Whistling and cheering. Rubio wins!
1.43am GMT
Here they come! They are:
1.42am GMT
The crowd is happily clapping now. The candidates are about to appear onstage.
1.40am GMT
Blitzer is back. “We’re moments away from the main event,” he says. They roll the promo montage again. It’s even more exciting the second time.
1.38am GMT
We’re still spying on them backstage. Reince Priebus, the Republican National Committee share, just has greeted Trump with a biig smile. Ben Carson does too.
Where’s Cruz?
Reminder that if you take out the vowels this guy's name is RNC PR BS.
1.36am GMT
There’s Chris Christie. We’re hanging out backstage with the candidates. There’s the back of Rand Paul’s head. Jeb Bush and Christie are exchanging pleasantries. Marco Rubio rolls in.
They’re ready. Are you?
1.32am GMT
Welcome back, straight from the Venetian in Las Vegas, where nine Republican presidential contenders are about to make the case for themselves as leaders on national security.
The undercard debate was dominated by discussion, following the terrorist attacks in Paris and San Bernardino, of how to take on the Islamic State group. Topics ranged from Donald Trump’s proposal to ban Muslims from entry to the United States to renewed surveillance on mosques and international phone traffic to the apparent need – or not – for US ground troops in Syria.
Related: Trump looms over Republican debate, but can Cruz and Rubio steal the show?
1.29am GMT
The Guardian’s Lauren Gambino has this report from Hillary Clinton’s speech in Minneapolis about the homegrown terrorism threat:
Hillary Clinton sought to convince a tense nation that she was the candidate best-suited to prevent homegrown terrorism, presenting a “360-degree” counterterrorism strategy that called for engaging American technology companies and empowering Muslim communities.
1.28am GMT
Special announcement from the Guardian’s Adam Gabbatt, who asks if you’d like to do something truly special on your phone during the debate:
I’ll be posting updates to WhatsApp throughout the debate. It’s an experiment by our Mobile Innovation Lab, and it promises to be some fun. We hope.
It’ll be like following along with a friend. A friend you don’t know yet. There might even be emojis.
1.27am GMT
Ben Carson cracks a joke.
"Maybe I'll bring some weapons with me" to #GOPDebate, Ben Carson quips: https://t.co/Y7IFQIblLv https://t.co/K8mwRdYiR1
1.26am GMT
Once more from Guardian US columnist Lucia Graves, who’s still recovering from jet lag after several days in Paris for the climate talks:
The undercard debate is over and done with ... and not a single question was asked about the global climate accord forged in Paris, this weekend between almost 200 countries.
It’s one of the biggest news stories of the year, arguably the most significant achievement of Obama’s presidency, and it’s an area where a Republican president could wreak considerable havoc, with repercussions for the entire world.
1.25am GMT
New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady is not turning his back on his buddy Trump, the Hill reports:
“I support all of my friends,” Brady said Tuesday on “The Dennis & Callahan Morning Show”when asked whether he backed the billionaire. “He’s always been so supportive of me. I’ve always enjoyed his company. I support all of my friends in everything that they do.”
Related: Donald Trump can't stop bragging about his 'great friend' Tom Brady
1.24am GMT
Here’s the early word from the undercard, by way of brand-new Guardian US columnist Richard Wolffe:
Lindsey Graham always seems like he’s on the edge of tears, but it’s hard to emote while also reassuring voters that you can keep them safe.
George Pataki sounds like he’s looking for investment opportunities in upstate New York – it’s apparently a great place to do business.
1.16am GMT
In case this guy isn’t quite doing it for you in terms of the bottom line from that early version of the debate ...
Early debate, Santorum, Graham good and effective, Huckabee ineffective, Pataki just embarrassing. Presidential bug a terrible thing!
If you thought the popular backlash against Donald Trump’s anti-Muslim and anti-refugee comments would’ve made the kiddie table refugees act more like Lindsay Graham in the first half of the debate, you were in for a surprise – and it doesn’t bode well for the main event beginning in a few minutes.
From Huckabee mockingly demanding that refugees all be resettled in Martha’s Vineyard and the White House (and laying claim to more Christian-ness than “liberals”), to Rick Santorum claiming that we shouldn’t resettle refugees displaced by Isis because we need them to like us and rebuild the Syrian government, the options went from bad to idiotic and back again.
This how much the press corps cares about the so-called undercard (or kids’ table) Republican presidential debate reserved for the four candidates doing worst in the polls.
1.12am GMT
Graham: I’m ready to be president. Events have proven me more right than wrong. We’ve spent a lot of carnage to getting where I have always been. Make me president.
Pataki: This debate has been about terrorism. I was governor of New York during September 11th. Visit scenic lower Manhattan! A new tower, soaring 1,776 feet tall.
1.08am GMT
Update: Trump’s not lost, that was a joke, of course he’s not lost – it’s Vegas!
Anyway, on to closing statements.
1.06am GMT
Guardian US data editor Mona Chalabi checks in again with the truth about refugees, beyond the bluster:
As the four undercard candidates clarified how many Syrian refugees that America should admit (hint: as few as humanly possible), it’s worth remembering how many have come to the US so far.
Since 2012, the US has accepted 2,174 Syrian refugees – roughly 0.0007% of America’s total population. By contrast, Germany has accepted 44,910 Syrian refugees. Check out more numbers here:
1.06am GMT
“Another very quick break,” Blitzer says.
95 generous minutes so far for the four participants in the undercard debate, who may not have 5 polling points between them.
1.00am GMT
Santorum is asked if there’s a way to properly vet refugees coming into the USA.
Santorum says “there no possibility to adequately vet someone” from a war-torn country such as Syria. “Who’re you gonna ask, Assad?” he asks.
Something to remember during debate:You’re more likely to be fatally crushed by furniture than killed by a terrorist https://t.co/jFPhiJAvLq
Both of which are more likely than any of these debaters moving into the white house in 2017 https://t.co/YfBKLqVPqz
12.55am GMT
What could possibly be more dangerous to Americans than the foreign terror thre--oh.
Wondering now if Wolf will press the candidates on incidents of domestic slaughter that don't involve ISIS.
12.53am GMT
“Another quick break,” Wolf Blitzer says.
What do you think? Who’s “winning”?
Graham should be in the main debate simply for his entertainment value.
Graham is s l a y i n g at this thing.
12.52am GMT
Once more from data editor Mona Chalabi, with Trumpening:
He’s not even standing on the stage, and yet: Donald Trump currently has more Google search traffic than Graham, Huckabee, Santorum and Pataki combined.
12.49am GMT
Graham smacks Santorum for his views on the capability of women to serve in combat.
Graham:
As to women, if you want to kill terrorists, I’m your guy.
He's single, ladies... https://t.co/GTeb2hCJA3
12.47am GMT
Questioner Bash asks Santorum about women in combat roles. Would he reverse an armed forces policy allowing women in combat?
Santorum basically says he... might.
12.43am GMT
Guardian US columnist Lucia Graves with a few words from Washington on that lamenting-for-Dubya moment:
Well here’s someone we didn’t expect to emerge as a hero at the undercard debate: George W Bush, aka the guy who left office with historically low approval ratings after botching the invasion of Iraq, Katrina and so much more. ‘I miss George W Bush,’ Lindsey Graham said to applause. ‘I wish he were president now!”’
Though he became persona non grata in the Republican party circa 2008, and then again in 2012, Dubya’s image has been rehabilitated of late. And hindsight isn’t always 20/20: 77% of registered Republicans now say they approve of his presidency, according to a recent Bloomberg poll. Seriously:
Explaining applause for Graham <3 for GWB... Bloomberg Nov. poll tested 43's favorability: Overall: +45%/-50% Registered GOP: +77%/-20%
12.42am GMT
Huckabee opposes a draft too. But he wants “to ask people to recognize that we are at war.”
12.40am GMT
Graham says “The next 9/11 is coming from Syria, it’s coming soon, and we have to have a plan.”
But it’s not necessary to reinstate the draft, he says. “If you don’t want to be there, I don’t want you there,” he says.
12.38am GMT
Graham hits Ted Cruz, the Texas senator who’s in the mainstage debate, for saying that he may be open to leaving Assad in place in Syria.
“He says his favorite movie is The Princess Bride,” Graham says. Graham’s right; see below.
12.35am GMT
Guardian US data editor Mona Chalabi chimes in with some much-needed context:
Candidates’ references to a previous period of intense uncertainty and fear in the US make a lot of sense: a poll conducted earlier this month found that 54% of Republicans feel they are less safe from terrorist attacks now compared to 2001. (Another 21% said “about the same”.)
The poll, which was conducted by the Economist and YouGov, found that only 33% of Democrats said they feel less safe now compared to 2001.
12.31am GMT
Santorum calls the Iran deal “the greatest betrayal of this country in the history of this country.”
He says that by working with the Iranian Shia regime, the United States is “picking the wrong horse,” because there are so many more Sunni Muslims than Shiites.
12.30am GMT
Graham gets worked up. “The surge worked!” he says, referring to the 2007 deployment of tens of thousands of additional troops to Iraq, the so-called Sunni awakening and a correlated temporary improvement of the security situation there.
Graham is sick of Bush-bashing:
I blame Obama for Isil, not Bush. I’m tired of beating on Bush. I miss George W Bush!
12.27am GMT
Commercial break and they’re back.
Huckabee is asked whether he would join Russian president Vladimir Putin in propping up Bashar Assad, the Syrian president.
FACT CHECK: They go off into fog at the end of Casablanca, not sun.
Guess Kerry is finally saying out loud something that's been known for a while https://t.co/vp6A0V2fcq
12.21am GMT
Guardian politics reporter Ben Jacobs scans the stage, his gaze falling on – who’s that? – George Pataki. There’s a strong case to be made that the former governor does not belong, Ben writes:
The undercard debate stage tonight includes the past two winners of the Iowa caucuses and a well-respected three term senator.
If I were Pataki I’d quit my campaign from the stage and use my final answer to rattle off Star Wars spoilers
12.19am GMT
So far we’ve had 45 minutes of solid debate about the fight against Isis. The candidates have come at the question from different angles – a need for surveillance, a need for ground troops in Syria – but the discussion so far has fallen under the sole umbrella issue: how to address the threat posed by militants associated with the Islamic state group.
That would make this debate a powerful data point to the notion that national security fears, and particularly anxiety about the terrorist threat, are ascendant in the US.
12.17am GMT
From US opinion editor Megan Carpentier:
The denizens of the kiddie table had some pretty childish conceptions of constitutional privacy rights, the ability of the government to protect us and the true menace of political correctness, which is now longer solely hurting white men’s feelings but also, apparently, causing terrorist attacks. Here’s a rundown of the undercard on the NSA and beyond...
Rick Santorum said political correctness is what’s keeping us from reading everyone’s Facebook and Twitter posts, and that no one who isn’t connected to terrorists should worry about the government has their metadata and is running it through “algorithms”. But, if people want to get guns, people should definitely be worried that they might be on the terror watch list and be denied. (Also, by the way, he said that Islam isn’t really totally a religion, and thus shouldn’t be totally subject to first amendment religious protections.)
12.14am GMT
Graham is the purported media favorite in the field...
Every campaign has the candidate who can't/doesn't win, but the media loves, eg Babbitt (88), McCain (00). That's Graham this time around.
12.13am GMT
Huckabee says he won’t put a number on how many troops he might or might not send to Syria because that would tip America’s hand to its enemies. He says you send as many troops as it takes to get the job done.
12.12am GMT
Pataki takes the question about deploying US troops in Syria.
“We have to send troops with allies and supporters wherever it is necessary to destroy the training centers and recruitment centers of Isis,” he says.
12.10am GMT
The conversation turns to potential US troop deployments in Syria. Santorum is asked how he can beat Isis in Syria without sending troops there.
Santorum launches into a lecture on the history of caliphates. He is posing as an authority on Islam. He says that taking territory from Isis would indicate to Muslims that the caliphate “is not blessed by Allah” and they would abandon it.
12.07am GMT
Graham is asked how he would defeat Isis online. “What you want to do is you want to knock them offline,” he says.
He takes credit for supporting ground troops in Iraq and Syria before the idea gained currency. “If you don’t understand you need 10,000 troops in Iraq, you’re not ready” to be president, he says.
12.05am GMT
Question for Huckabee: How would you defeat Isis ideologically?
Huckabee: Remind people they intend to kill us. Obama underestimates them. “We’ve got to make it so untenable for someone to join Isis.”
12.02am GMT
Graham is a countervailing voice on Islam, the potential threat posed inside the United States by Muslims, and what measures should or should not be taken to answer the threat.
12.01am GMT
Santorum will not say that people on a terror watch list should automatically be banned from buying guns. He says that would interrupt the discretion of the ATF.
“Islam is not just a religion,” Santorum says. “It is also a political governing structure... and so the idea that that is protected under the first amendment is wrong.”
11.58pm GMT
Huckabee says the surveillance of mosques would not violate first-amendment rights.
“They might just want to listen in and see, is there something that is a little nefarious?”
If Islam is as wonderful and peaceful as its adherents say, shouldn’t they be begging us to come in and listen to these peaceful sermons... so that we all would convert to Islam?
11.55pm GMT
Huckabee calls for better social media monitoring for potential migrants. “This lady who came over here and shot up San Bernardino, yet we were restricted from looking” at her Facebook, Huckabee says.
The former Arkansas governor says every college kid who gets drunk puts a photo on Facebook that future employers will look at but the government can’t monitor the social media of potential immigrants who might be dangerous.
11.53pm GMT
Santorum says that the San Bernardino attacks display a need for broader collection of phone metadata.
Graham agrees. Then he accuses senators Paul and Cruz of being isolationists. He says if terrorists call America, “don’t we want to know who they’re talking to?”
We’re at war folks. They’re not trying to steal your car. They’re trying to kill us all.
11.50pm GMT
Huckabee also opposes Trump’s proposed Muslim ban.
“I’m not sure that you could have a religious test, per se,” Huckabee says. He says people coming into the USA could just lie about their religion.
11.49pm GMT
Santorum comes out as a partial supporter of Trump’s proposed Muslim ban – and wins some applause.
“The fact is, not all Muslims are jihadists. But the reality is, all jihadists are Muslims,” Santorum says.
11.46pm GMT
Pataki gets to pile on on Trump.
“To target a religion... is un-American, it is un-constitutional, and it is wrong,” the former New York governor says.
11.45pm GMT
Graham takes a question about Republicans who support Trump’s proposal to ban Muslims traveling to the US.
“You may think this makes us safe, but it doesn’t,” Graham says.
11.42pm GMT
Blitzer is still explaining the rules. And we won’t get a commercial after all. The candidates introduce themselves:
Graham: I just got back from Iraq, which I’ve visited dozens of times in the past decade. I met a sergeant who was proud of his work to train Iraqi Kurdish commandoes. His predecessor was killed in a raid. I told him to stay safe. As commander in chief, I will ensure he can win.
11.36pm GMT
The camera moves into the hall and Wolf Blitzer is talking. “There’s a lot of anticipation here in this theater,” he says. He welcomes viewers.
The network will use questions submitted by viewers on Facebook, Blitzer says. And other questions.
11.31pm GMT
OK here comes the real show.
CNN begins with a sizzle reel. The reel highlights the national security debate. With pictures of bearded rifle-wielding jihadis and a good share of Trump voiceover.
11.13pm GMT
Rain delay: the undercard debate, it turns out, is not going to start until 6.30pm. By advertising it for 6pm, CNN meant that their five-dudes-on-stools-in-blue-ties (pace Paul Begala) talking-about-what-hasn’t-happened-yet would start at 6pm.
The actual debate itself doesn’t start for another 15 minutes. We fall for it every time!
11.06pm GMT
To remind you, here’s the lineup for the warmup:
10.57pm GMT
Political reporter Ben Jacobs has this dispatch from Waukee, Iowa, west of Des Moines – and safely a very large state away from Canada:
In a seven-point foreign policy plan unveiled Tuesday, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson called for the National Guard to be deployed on the Canadian border.
10.50pm GMT
Should be fun to have Lindsey Graham back tonight. Hard to understand why the South Carolina senator, a Republican touchstone on national security issues, was excluded from the last set of debates, no matter how miniscule his polling numbers.
Graham will be among the four to take the warmup stage in about ten minutes here. *Correction: no, when CNN said 6p they meant 6.30.
10.38pm GMT
This is the case.
How long is tonight's GOP debate? Can't find any info on this. It's like CNN doesn't want us to know so we'll tune in forever.
10.20pm GMT
Now here’s fodder for debate: What are the 10 best films set in Las Vegas? The Guardian’s John Patterson has congenially gone and answered the question for readers seeking entertainment to precede the entertainment.
Controversially, in certain quarters, John has not included in his roundup that madcap sequel starring Sandra Bullock as an FBI agent undercover as a beauty pageant contestant that was 2005’s gift to cinema. We speak, of course, of Miss Congeniality 2: Armed and Fabulous.
10.09pm GMT
Walter Mondale, who knows from presidential campaigns, has introduced Hillary Clinton at an appearance in Minneapolis, Minnesota to discuss homeland security:
.@HillaryClinton on Homeland Security, introduced by fmr VP Walter Mondale – LIVE on C-SPAN https://t.co/J1RaCncmj8 pic.twitter.com/1bL06qeKpk
"The phrase active shooter should not be one we have to teach our children. But it is," @HillaryClinton said
10.00pm GMT
What’s different from the last time we did this?
Let’s go to the tape. The last Republican debate was on 10 November and it happened in Milwaukee. We live blogged it here, concluding:
The debate was a polite and serious affair defined by relatively deep dives into tax reform proposals, the minimum wage, health care, immigration, bank bailouts, military spending, foreign policy and more.
9.46pm GMT
Before we jump into our pregame debate coverage, here’s what else is crackling today in politics:
“I think it is going to be a very big night. They’re all coming after me.” – Donald Trump, on the topic of tonight’s debate
Watching Trump's speech. They're all the same, farrago of bullshit, exaggeration, malformed arguments, and word vomit. And no one cares.
9.02pm GMT
It’s debate night! Welcome to our live coverage of the fifth Republican presidential debate, and thanks for joining us.
The location of tonight’s debate, Las Vegas, invites a prizefight analogy. But what kind of prizefight has nine lecterns, three refs and zero bathrobes? (There might be bathrobes.)
Getting ready for the debate tomorrow. Needed some inspiration: https://t.co/hcamfMEEOH #Maniac #TommyBoy
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