This case shows what happens if people try to build up a business without having enough funds and not any knowledge about business. They are promising and making orders in the hope to earn. The result is a big fail. It seems to be in India usual to simple disappear after failing in business. In any case it is a big crime to escape in this way from the responsibility. Such a behavior results in other countries in a prison sentence.
As much as I understand the anger of the call center owner Amith D'Silva that he lost money by this process as much he is guilty by himself too. They started to sell a product in January, which has not been available at this time. In such a case they tried to sell dreams. At this time the alarm bells have to ring already.
If I read the following LinkedIn Pulse article found at https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/beware-arima-app-store-which-fraud-company-amith-d-silva?trk=hb_ntf_MEGAPHONE_ARTICLE_POST, then I get the impression that not one of the participating parties had any knowledge how to build up a business. Even I'm not able to classify them as amateurs. Amateurs have more knowledge about a business than all the participating people including the call center owner. How a call center can promote a product under their own phone numbers and email addresses without any knowledhe how the product is working? How they can handle in such a case complaints from the customers if they are running into failures? The customers are calling this number back from which they got called.
It seems that even the app-store got programmed cheap, quick, dirty and without any knowledge of international standards. Nobody has made any tests of the ready product. An European court would decide in each case to negligent bankruptcy offense and the CEO must be personally liable, since the commercial due diligence has been violated.
The LinkedIn Pulse article shows exactly the fails of both parties:
BEWARE of ARIMA APP STORE which is a Fraud Company
I would like to give you a brief about my worst experience with Arima App Store and would recommend each and everyone to read. The Directors Mr. Pritesh Pradeep Saitwal and Ganesh Dhananjay Godse met Prachin Shirsat in the Train through a friend who were seeking a Call Center for their Project so known as Arima App Store around in September 2014. Prachin then introduces them to Mr. Amith D'Silva Proprietor Of Corona Borealis & Crux Services which is a Call Center based in Jesal Park, Bhayandar (East).
Mr. Ganesh Godse & Mr. Pritesh Saitwal from Arima App Store wanted the calling to be on $10 / Sale on which our company had disagreed since it was a new company and they wanted Leads to be generated and closed. We came upon an agreement on which $4 was decided per hour per seat upon which a mail was sent from Mr. Ganesh Godse on January 08, 2015. In the start Mr. Ganesh had promised the payment would be received within Net 7 days from the Invoice raising.
The process then started on January 15, 2015 and the website was first shown on February 18, 2015 upon which the website was very normal that no Software Developer would have put his application or software with a charge of INR 2000.00 for a lifetime. The script which was supposed to be given by Arima App Store where as it was not produced by Arima App Store. We prepared the Script for Arima App Store where no charges were charged to them and training was given from our end where as Information was only given by Mr. Ganesh Godse. Upon receiving complains from the clients who then told the agents working for Arima App Store that the website is not up to date. Please update the website and then give us a call. Complains were sent to Ganesh in Verbal as well as thru mails. Ganesh then informed us to stop the process on February 06, 2015 upon which we were informed that the first web designer has been changed and he is bringing into the picture a new web designer who will make the website up to date and one of the best. We had a meeting with the Web Designer upon which we discussed the pros and cons of the website. The Project was then put on hold. A call was made to Mr. Ganesh Godse on February 08,2015 to release the first payment. He then informed that he will arrange for the funds along with the February 2015 Payment. We never charged him for the days we kept our center closed due to his Website being updated. We helped him since he was new and was seeking support for his company to grow since he showed us decency.
The project then started on February 20, 2015 upon which the Website was satisfactory and the clients were ready to move ahead and invest but this time they wanted a mail explaining about the website and what are the features. We then informed Mr. Ganesh Godse to prepare the mails on which he prepared a mail with just these words as mentioned below
Welcome To Arima Apps Store
Username - Name89
Password - 5898#8
Thanks for joining Arima App Store.
Arima App Store
The clients then were getting irate on the agents who were calling and we also informed Mr. Ganesh Godse who used to come twice or thrice a week to the office that in this manner we cannot get business in this manner for his company. He then informed us that the web designer does not understand how to make the mail and for him he does not know since he is new and does not have a background about Marketing and Sales. He asked if we could help him and we did send him 6 different mail formats. But they were not published the way we had prepared them and the web designer who say they were professionals were engaged in different issues in the website they were facing due to the website for eg. the mobile number when saved in the database used to show us +1 and then the mobile number of India or some awkward numbers. When we asked Ganesh about the payment he said he will make arrangements on March 15, 2015 as he does not have the funds with him and he has put all the money in the website. The dates were then extended to March 22, 2015 then went to March 28, 2015. The reason he said was he had applied for a loan which was not sanctioned. Then Mr. Ganesh Godse from Arima App Stores came to the office on April 08, 2015 and informed us to stop the calling henceforth and he will try to make arrengements of the payments by April 22, 2015 but to be on a safer side he gave us Cheques Dated May 02, 2015. When asked him how he is making arrangements he said he has given a builder some 12 Lakhs as investment upon which the builder is giving him 9 Lakhs. When asked for the papers he said he will bring it and has never shown. He then called me on the April 30, 2015 requesting me that the funds have not been arranged and to inform all agents not to put the cheque. He said he will arrange the funds and has been giving us dates after dates. The final date was July 25, 2015 upon which he said he will transfer the amount by Saturday July 25, 2015 or Monday July 27, 2015. When I called him from my number he does not answer and when I called him from another number at 11am he picked up the phone and informed that he is on his way to transfer the funds. I informed him to answer the phone but neither he answers the phone neither does he call back. Then at 1pm I call him from another number and he answers the call when I ask him about the money he says give me 10mins and thereafter neither he picked up the calls neither reverted to the messages. A payment of nearly 7 Lakhs is pending. Mr. Ganesh Godse from Arima App Store is not trust worthy in dealing with. I am putting his cheques and also lodging a complain and have informed the same to the agents to do so. This is what we get in return for helping a person and supporting him setting up his company. I have Mails, Screenshots which after lodging a complain will pull him to court. I never wanted all this but since he is not reverting back to my messages, Phone Calls, Mails. The only option left is pull Arima App Store and specially Ganesh Godse to court. He will show you the grass in greener on the other side but when he takes you there it just a desert. Luckily no Investors or No Centers have taken his process otherwise they would have repented like how we are doing. Please be careful Of Arima App Store before investing a rupee. They give false commitments. If you want proofs I can submit.
Proofes from the failed project:
1. Mail as on January 08, 2015
From: Arima Store <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:13 PM
Subject: Sales Process
This email is in the reference to our discussion on sales process of Arima Apps Store
Arima Apps is a unique place where users can take advantage of a private online hard disk dedicated to storing, publishing, and sharing, material and Personal content for mobile devices -- including pictures, ringtones, wallpapers, logos, as well as the most appropriate applications for each users' mobile phones. & pc Services provided to the registered users which can be adapted and then sent to Cell Phones throughout the World. Arima app store brings you the wide range of Apps and Games to download from. Which are available to download for OS like Android, iOS, Windows. Currently, Arima Apps provides its Users a web-based online hard disk, dedicated to storing, publishing and sharing material and personal content for Cell Phones (ie applications, pictures, games, utilities, logos, ringtones, images and audio executable files). Arima Apps Users may save, share and distribute their personal files over the Web, via Mobile, and to virtually any Cell Phone in the World. Users enjoy the use of a private area to save their material. User content can be kept private or can be made available to the entire Arima Apps community, depending on the wishes of the posting User. Arima Apps provides a Service for storing, publishing, managing and sharing personal mobile content for all Cell Phones – regardless of Cell Phone manufacturer and wireless service provider. Personal mobile content on Arima Apps public area can also be downloaded to any PC and mobile device.
Opportunity for Call Center
The Distribution of Wealth Across iOS and Android Apps, July 31, 2012
The iTunes App Store and Google Play now offer more than 600,000 apps each. And Apple’s most recent earnings call revealed that the company has paid out more than $5.5 billion to developers since the launch of the App Store.
Let’s start with market growth. Likewise, premium and in-app purchase revenue is increasing at a rate of 50%,from $4.5 billion in 2011 to $6.7 billion in 2012
Depending on what source you use there are anywhere from 5 to 6 billion mobile subscribers worldwide. Many of these subscribers are using apps every day. This is the perfect time to start your very own marketing business in apps and apps store. We are bringing this Opportunity for call centers.
1. We are outsourcing $4 per hr/seat
2. Minimum require area 500 square feet commercial
3. Seating arrangement minimum 07
4. Contract of 11 months
5. Daily Target of 5 sales per agent
Role of Call Center
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2. Process Was Kept On Hold from February 08,2015 Till February 20, 2015
Reason : The Website was not up to date and was not looking professional. When we were calling the clients they just saw the website and said they were not interested. Even the mails which was sent to the clients were as follows
Welcome To Arima Apps Store
Username - Name89
Password - 5898#8
Thanks for joining Arima App Store.
Arima App Store
Mr. Ganesh Godse (Arima App Store) informed us that he has changed the Web Developer and given the Web Designing work to a company called Aabit Soft and the web designer also came to our office to make an inquiry as too what the clients were saying to make the website perfect. Hence the process was closed till February 21, 2015. When we asked about the payment he said he was short on cash and hence invested all his money in the website work. He informed us he would give January and February Billing together by the 15th Of March 2015.
3. Process Started on February 21, 2015
4. Whatsapp Proof from 20th February 2015 (Part is in English and part is in Hindi).
20/02/15 9:39:03 am: Ganesh Godse: www.chupamobile.com
21/02/15 9:59:47 am: Ganesh Godse: aane ke liye der hogi muze.. ek meeting hai wo khtam karake aaunga 2 baje tak
21/02/15 9:59:51 am: Ganesh Godse: sorry
03/03/15 10:06:05 am: Ganesh Godse: Not able to come today because of illness
05/03/15 10:08:39 am: Ganesh Godse: Not able to today becouse of some meeting with investers in pune.. call center panel and mail things wil take time to done it wil be done on saturday night..
05/03/15 11:00:11 am: Ganesh Godse: Mail ka jaam 3 baje tak ho jayega
07/03/15 3:00:19 pm: Ganesh Godse: Yes we can send the mail now .. I wil cl in hr send mails at night
07/03/15 3:00:31 pm: Ganesh Godse: And also I wil send data
09/03/15 11:11:15 am: Ganesh Godse: Amith sir payment ka nahi ho pa raha hai arragement.. aap is month me arrange kar lo agale mahine ke 26-27 tak ho jayega humari taraf se
14/03/15 11:40:21 am: Ganesh Godse: W m will be late .. wil come at 5 pm
19/03/15 9:28:49 am: Ganesh Godse: Will come at 4 pm
25/03/15 5:42:28 pm: Ganesh Godse: Devloper no-8898517323
30/03/15 10:12:00 am: Amith D'Silva: Surendra - +91-7208-0158-70
Reema - +91-7208-0158-74
Bharti - +91-7208-0158-77
30/03/15 10:13:37 am: Amith D'Silva: Call our Customer Service on +91-7208-0158-70/78
07/04/15 10:28:40 am: Amith D'Silva: Please give me some good news abt the cash
07/04/15 4:50:08 pm: Amith D'Silva: Kabhi tak aa rahe ho
07/04/15 4:51:32 pm: Amith D'Silva: They are asking me abt the money continuously and secondly abt the mails
07/04/15 5:22:33 pm: Ganesh Godse: Aaj nahi ho paraha ammount ka sir mai kuch solution nikal ke aap ko cl karata hu thodi der me
07/04/15 5:24:18 pm: Amith D'Silva: Kitna ho paa raha hai
07/04/15 5:24:38 pm: Amith D'Silva: 50k ho sakta hai
07/04/15 5:24:54 pm: Amith D'Silva: Unko Feb ka dekhe shaant kara du
07/04/15 5:25:12 pm: Amith D'Silva: Unke ghar se bahut problem ho raha hai
07/04/15 5:25:34 pm: Amith D'Silva: Unlog ne mere kehne pe 7 tarik bola tha ghar waalo ko
07/04/15 9:16:42 pm: Ganesh Godse: I have sent you mail please check out
07/04/15 10:07:19 pm: Amith D'Silva: Where r u.
07/04/15 10:07:34 pm: Amith D'Silva: I am waiting for u in the office
07/04/15 10:23:10 pm: Amith D'Silva: Aa rahe ho ki nahi... Ye tou batao.
07/04/15 10:23:33 pm: Amith D'Silva: I have called the people for the cash
07/04/15 10:23:43 pm: Amith D'Silva: It is better if u talk
10/04/15 3:10:23 pm: Ganesh Godse: 2bdf4d94ab963da747de6139c20123
10/04/15 3:10:46 pm: Ganesh Godse: 14fdf20a8e0097dc8959d5a5e0b390
10/04/15 3:11:34 pm: Ganesh Godse: 70de010a77c9bfcff218d1017608c6
10/04/15 3:11:55 pm: Amith D'Silva: Picture blurr hai
10/04/15 3:12:05 pm: Amith D'Silva: Nazar nahi aa raha hai properly
10/04/15 3:12:29 pm: Ganesh Godse: Clear nahi aa rahi mai mail karata hu
10/04/15 3:12:35 pm: Amith D'Silva: Ok
10/04/15 3:12:56 pm: Amith D'Silva: Aap ki taraf se kuch hua payment ka
10/04/15 3:13:07 pm: Amith D'Silva: Kitna tak aap kar sakte ho
10/04/15 3:13:38 pm: Ganesh Godse: Abhi muze be jarurat hai 20000 ka
10/04/15 3:13:50 pm: Amith D'Silva: Kyuki agents ke ghar pe bahut problem ho rahi hai
10/04/15 3:14:00 pm: Ganesh Godse: Mera to loan ka aayega tabhi hoga
10/04/15 3:14:39 pm: Amith D'Silva: Woh tou problem hai ab waqt nahi hai
10/04/15 3:27:14 pm: Amith D'Silva: Mail bhej diya
10/04/15 9:53:02 pm: Ganesh Godse: Car ka nahi ho payega Amitsir
11/04/15 9:43:10 am: Amith D'Silva: Kitne baaje tak a rahe ho
11/04/15 9:43:23 am: Ganesh Godse: 11.30
11/04/15 9:44:10 am: Amith D'Silva: 10000 tak cash ho paayenga aap se
11/04/15 9:45:27 am: Ganesh Godse: Nahi ho payega sir
11/04/15 9:45:56 am: Amith D'Silva: Chaalo thik hai
11/04/15 9:46:46 am: Ganesh Godse: Mai chek leke aata hu 2 tarikh ka unko bol do sir
11/04/15 9:47:24 am: Amith D'Silva: Woh tou aapke saamne baat karta hu
12/04/15 11:03:26 pm: Amith D'Silva: Kya hua phone kiya tha
12/04/15 11:03:48 pm: Amith D'Silva: Maine 2 baar phone kiya tha aapne jawab nahi diya
02/05/15 7:52:54 am: Ganesh Godse: Cl me
02/05/15 7:53:00 am: Ganesh Godse: Kal kaam nahi hua
02/05/15 7:53:53 am: Ganesh Godse: Jaldi hone ke kuch chances bhi nahi hai aur 2-3din idhar rehake dekhata hu kya hota hai
02/05/15 9:53:51 am: Ganesh Godse: Please inform to employees do not deposit heir cheques in bank
02/05/15 10:03:39 am: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji sab ko paise ki zaroorat hai. Reema ko chennai jaana hai 5 tarik ko. Vo paisa maang rahi thi. Mujhe bhi pressure aa raha hai. Aap 2 ya 3 fin mat karo yaha pe 1.5 months ho gaya hai. Dusri taraf project mil raha hai par le nahi sakta kyuki rolling ke liye paise nahi hai
02/05/15 10:03:55 am: Amith D'Silva: Center chalo karoo tou kaise
02/05/15 10:04:56 am: Amith D'Silva: Sab bills chukta karoonga tou hi center chaloo kar sakta hu
02/05/15 2:19:31 pm: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji Reema ka daddy nahi sunn rahe hai woh bol rahe hai woh cheque daalne jaa raha hai aur bounce ho gay woh office ke yaha pe aake tamasha kar denga
02/05/15 2:20:11 pm: Amith D'Silva: Mein nahi jaanta aap kuch karo kyuki har jagah mera naam kharab ho raha hai
02/05/15 2:20:58 pm: Amith D'Silva: Unki baat bhi sahi thi kitne mahine se paisa atak gaya hai
02/05/15 2:22:57 pm: Amith D'Silva: Ab kuch jyaada pressure aa raha hai
03/05/15 12:39:35 am: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji kisi bhi halat mein mujhe kal tak paisa karke de dou ek tou reema ke dad ke saath mera muh ki boli ho gayi aur woh aa rahe hai office mein hungama karne. Mein kyu apna company ka ya area mein apna naam kharaab karoo
07/05/15 8:04:54 am: Ganesh Godse: Amit sir mai abhi bhi pune me hu .. aap jab free ho cl karana
07/05/15 8:04:54 am: Ganesh Godse: I Want to talk to you
08/05/15 2:15:47 pm: Amith D'Silva: Kya hua kal call kiya tha par aap meeting mein busy teh
08/05/15 2:16:09 pm: Amith D'Silva: Phone karke information tou de dou
08/05/15 2:16:21 pm: Amith D'Silva: Idhar har din tension badh raha hai
08/05/15 2:16:53 pm: Amith D'Silva: Aaj aapko phone kiya toh mobile switch kar diya aapne
08/05/15 2:17:18 pm: Amith D'Silva: Please call karo mujhe
08/05/15 2:42:42 pm: Ganesh Godse: Baat chal rahi hai abhi tak final nahi hua jaise he hota hai mai bata dunga
08/05/15 2:44:32 pm: Amith D'Silva: Kal aaye teh meter leke jaane ke liye Reliance waale aur bole ki bill nahi bara tou ek saath connection kat denge aur reconnection ke liye Santacruz jaana padenga
08/05/15 2:44:44 pm: Amith D'Silva: Problems bahut badh gayi hai
12/05/15 6:53:28 am: Ganesh Godse: Amit sir amount kuch ho nahi pa raha hai.. july me wo amount aayega to de dunga
12/05/15 10:40:28 am: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji aap problem nahi samaj rahe ho meri... Aap phone bhi nahi utha rahe ho naa phone kar rahe ho...
12/05/15 10:44:05 am: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji phone tou uthao
12/05/15 10:44:25 am: Amith D'Silva: Aisa nahi uthane se problem solve ho jaayenga lagta hai
12/05/15 10:44:41 am: Amith D'Silva: July tak nein intezaar bahi kar sakta
12/05/15 10:45:05 am: Amith D'Silva: I cannot wait till july
12/05/15 10:46:17 am: Amith D'Silva: Please keep your car an take the money or sell your property or lease it. Do anything now this is the height please understand. We are facing problems after problems
12/05/15 10:47:24 am: Amith D'Silva: For u it is easy to give dates after dates yeah everything is coming on the head
12/05/15 2:38:37 pm: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji i have spoken to my friend and he explained to me on the builder's part as too what we can do too procure the loan. So call me once u r free so i can explain.
12/05/15 11:04:55 pm: Amith D'Silva: When r u planning on meeting me
13/05/15 7:14:50 am: Ganesh Godse: Amit sir mera builder se baat nahi ho paya kal mai apana phone bhul gaya tha hotel me
13/05/15 7:15:11 am: Ganesh Godse: Mai aaj baat karake cl karata hu
13/05/15 10:17:50 am: Amith D'Silva: Ok. But before u speak to the builder call me cause i need to tell u wht the person told me
18/05/15 9:22:33 pm: Ganesh Godse: Wil cl u tomorrow evening
18/05/15 9:22:34 pm: Ganesh Godse: Wil cl u tomorrow evening
I had sent the above mentioned chat of whatsapp to my Email as Back Up.
I do not have the chat from 18th May 2015 Till 05th July 2015 Cause my phone crashed.
5. Whatsapp Proof from 05th July 2015 (Part is in English and part is in Hindi).
05/07/15 19:49:23: Amith D'Silva: What is happening of the cash
05/07/15 19:49:39: Amith D'Silva: Y r u not answering the call
06/07/15 04:49:46: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji aap answer mat dou ab. Mujhse galti ho gayi ki maine aapko waqt bahut diya mujhe mera paise chukane ke liye
06/07/15 05:04:13: Amith D'Silva: I have tried calling u several times but of no use cause u never answer and u don't have the courtesy of even calling or even sending me a message. Not even me the people who have worked hard even when they all you. You never answer. As per your words you were suppose to give me a certain amount today the 6th of July 2015. But since u r neither answering the phone and neither calling back I assume you are not planning on giving me the amount. I am putting the cheque given by you on the 07th of July 2015. If it bounces I am putting a complain along with the documentation that is your pan card copy, ration card copy etc. along with the recordings and screenshots and mail copies. I will register a complain with the cops as well as put in the newspaper. I have waited and given you enough time but I am sorry to tell I did a mistake. So now it is high time to take an action against you. This is for your information. Thanks
06/07/15 05:06:48: Amith D'Silva: Please don't call me cause i am not interested in your jazz which you have been giving me from the past so many months. I have waited enough and even the poor people working for you have waited enough.
06/07/15 07:05:26: Ganesh Godse: Sir payment ka arrangement nahi hua 25 ko milega definitely.
06/07/15 07:10:46: Ganesh Godse: 25 ko mera payment aaye ga dusare ke bharose thoda problem hota hai aap to samaz sakate ho..
06/07/15 07:15:05: Ganesh Godse: Itana wait kiya hai aapane 25 tak wait karo please
06/07/15 07:15:41: Ganesh Godse: 100% ho jayega 25th ko
06/07/15 07:16:41: Ganesh Godse: Aapaka Phone uthake na bol nahi paa raha tha isaliye nahi uthaya.
06/07/15 07:17:15: Ganesh Godse: 25% nahi hua to jo aap chahe kar lijiye bas 25 tak time dijiye
06/07/15 07:17:47: Ganesh Godse: Sure ho jayega
16/07/15 18:20:58: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji kya ho raha hai phir se phone nahi utha rahe ho
16/07/15 18:21:54: Amith D'Silva: Abhi kya progress hai
16/07/15 18:23:01: Amith D'Silva: Please situation already out of control jaa chuka hai
16/07/15 18:24:57: Amith D'Silva: Need atleast 3 lakhs now on the 25th
16/07/15 18:25:13: Amith D'Silva: With 2 Lakhs nothing is going to happen
16/07/15 18:26:59: Amith D'Silva: The interest will also be levied on the total billing cause I have to also pay Interest.
16/07/15 18:32:41: Amith D'Silva: I will be putting the cheque as per 3 Lakhs - Bharti's Cheque - Reema's Cheque - Surendra's Cheque. Please also make arrangements of the remaining amount at the earliest. I will be putting the cheque on the 26th of July 2015. Please make a note and keep sufficient balance. I will not wait for another day also. 25th of July 2015 is d the last. You also know how much I have waited. It is a long time now.
16/07/15 18:33:02: Amith D'Silva: I am waiting for ur call
16/07/15 18:35:00: Ganesh Godse: Cl me
16/07/15 19:05:31: Amith D'Silva: Call kar raha hu tou utha nahi rahe ho
18/07/15 21:37:37: Amith D'Silva: Kya ho raha hai Ganeshji... Mujhe phone karo urgent hai...
19/07/15 00:02:09: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji aap phone pe baat nahi kar sakte tou message pe baat karo
19/07/15 00:02:37: Amith D'Silva: Mujhe batao 25 tarik ko kya amount de rahe ho
19/07/15 11:09:16: Amith D'Silva: Chalo thik hai matlab aapke taraf se koi jawab nahi aa raha hai
19/07/15 11:09:24: Amith D'Silva: Itne din se phone kar raha hu
19/07/15 11:09:31: Amith D'Silva: Messages bhej raha hu
19/07/15 11:09:44: Amith D'Silva: But there is no reply from your end
19/07/15 11:11:15: Amith D'Silva: I will not call you and disturb you that too for my money. I am tired of all the requesting part. Now I will put your cheque on Monday. Thanks.
19/07/15 11:13:25: Amith D'Silva: U r not understanding the problems I am facing. So be it.
19/07/15 11:38:44: Amith D'Silva: Kya hua Ganeshji
19/07/15 11:38:55: Amith D'Silva: Online ho par answer nahi de rahe ho
19/07/15 11:39:26: Ganesh Godse: Abhi tak payment hath me nahi hai to kya batau aapako
19/07/15 11:39:48: Ganesh Godse: 25 ko banda deta hu bola hai
19/07/15 11:40:00: Amith D'Silva: Idhar Interest pe maine paise uthaya hai.
19/07/15 11:40:11: Ganesh Godse: Jaise haath me aata hai cl kar dunga
19/07/15 11:40:16: Amith D'Silva: Matlab confirm nahi hai naa
19/07/15 11:40:30: Amith D'Silva: Call uthaya karo
19/07/15 11:40:42: Amith D'Silva: Phone saamne se kar nahi rahe ho
19/07/15 11:41:21: Amith D'Silva: Aaj tak maine hi phone kiya hai aapko
19/07/15 11:41:54: Amith D'Silva: Mujhe bhi malum hai 25 ko aapko paise milne waale hai
19/07/15 11:42:02: Amith D'Silva: Lekin baat tou karo
19/07/15 11:42:05: Ganesh Godse: Muze sabake cheque ke photo nikal ke bhejne bolo whatsapp pe
19/07/15 11:42:30: Ganesh Godse: Employees ke
19/07/15 11:43:04: Ganesh Godse: Kal tak bheja to bhi chalega
19/07/15 11:43:39: Amith D'Silva: Mein abhi kuch baat nahi karunga
19/07/15 11:44:01: Amith D'Silva: Woh sab ko salary chaiye
19/07/15 11:44:11: Ganesh Godse: Kisase? Employees se?
19/07/15 11:44:19: Amith D'Silva: Paise aane ke baad baat karunga
19/07/15 12:05:23: Amith D'Silva: a03b3b643ac621d502aac049623bd0
21/07/15 14:08:37: Amith D'Silva: Hi
21/07/15 14:08:47: Amith D'Silva: Did u speak to the builder
21/07/15 14:08:51: Amith D'Silva: Any news
21/07/15 14:09:05: Amith D'Silva: About the Cash
21/07/15 14:15:49: Amith D'Silva: Please do give me an update
22/07/15 08:29:04: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji 25th ka kya ho raha hai.. Baat hua builder se.
22/07/15 10:10:39: Ganesh Godse: Baat nahi hua abhi tak .. but send me ur account details. Mai Saturday ko ya Monday ko payment transfer kar dunga
22/07/15 14:08:36: Amith D'Silva: Ok. Here the light has gone once it comes will surely send you the account details. Thanks for releasing the pressure of my head.
23/07/15 17:30:08: Amith D'Silva: Bank Details
Payee Name : Corona Borealis
Bank Account Number : 1062000100174301
Bank Name : Karnataka Bank
Branch : Bhayandar
City : Mumbai
MICR Code : 400052010
IFSC Code : KARB0000106
Branch Code : 000106
Address : Shop No. 12, Ostwal Ornate, Jesal Park, Bhayandar (E.) Thane - 401105
Swift Code : KARBINBBOSB
23/07/15 19:32:45: Ganesh Godse: Current hai ya saving?
23/07/15 19:33:50: Amith D'Silva: It is a Current A/c
24/07/15 15:46:04: Amith D'Silva: Please send me the address on which Arima App Store is registered
24/07/15 15:46:15: Amith D'Silva: For the Invoice Billing
24/07/15 20:37:43: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji kya hua
25/07/15 08:14:48: Amith D'Silva: Please give me an update
25/07/15 08:18:07: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji mujhe please batao ki kya ho raha hai. Kal se phone naa kar rahe ho naa uthao rahe ho. Kyu ghuma rahe ho.
25/07/15 08:32:12: Ganesh Godse: Mai bahar tha raat mai jaise somwar ko paise mil jayenge to aap ko send kar dunga
25/07/15 08:44:55: Amith D'Silva: Phone ko answer karo
25/07/15 08:45:21: Amith D'Silva: Maine aapko Agreement ka mail bheja hai
25/07/15 08:45:33: Amith D'Silva: Aaj mein sab Invoices bhejta hu
25/07/15 13:49:07: Amith D'Silva: Monday ki confirm kar dena please. Please Tuesday mat karo and secondly mujhe receipt bhej dou Transfer ka. So i can follow up withe the bank
25/07/15 13:49:35: Amith D'Silva: Monday Ko Confirm kar dena.
25/07/15 13:53:02: Amith D'Silva: If not on Tuesday we are putting the cheques. We cannot wait anymore. We are facing problems after problems. It is high tome you realise what we are going through. Each day is tough to remove.
25/07/15 13:53:13: Amith D'Silva: Please understand the problem
25/07/15 18:46:43: Amith D'Silva: Please check the mail sent by you on Jan 08 2015 at 12:13pm with the subject Sales Process sent by you where you have clearly mentioned $4/ Hr
26/07/15 23:52:09: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji please do it tomorrow
26/07/15 23:52:27: Amith D'Silva: Did u receive the cash
27/07/15 08:42:28: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji naa aap mera messages ka answer de rahe ho naa aap mera mails ka answer de rahe ho na aap phone ka answer de rahe ho
27/07/15 08:45:40: Amith D'Silva: That means you are playing around so now It is better for me to go ahead and put your cheques and lodge a complain on you and your company along with all your mails, documentation, messages. Cause u r just playing around. If you were genuine u would have answered the calls, messages and mails.
27/07/15 08:46:50: Amith D'Silva: I cannot wait anymore.
27/07/15 08:47:42: Amith D'Silva: I am tired of all the requesting. This is what we get for supporting you for 7 months.
27/07/15 08:51:55: Amith D'Silva: You were saying 25th of July 2015 ka date final hai. We waited. Ab kya 27th of July 2015 hai aaj ab tak nahi aaya cash. Kya vishwas rakho aapke upar. Aap mujhe bataye. Upar se aapne process kisi aur ko outsource kiya hai. Bewakoof samajte ho kya aap mujhe. Call Center Industry hai. Aaj forums mein aapka aur aapke Company ka naam dalunga sab proofs ke saath. Pareshan kar diya hai aapne. Ab sehan ke bahar ho gaya hai.
27/07/15 08:53:26: Amith D'Silva: Mujhe aapse koi lena dena nahi hai. Mera bill clear karo aur aap apne raaste aur mein aapne raaste. Aap mujhe majboor kar rahe ho yeh sab karne ke liye.
27/07/15 08:55:15: Amith D'Silva: Mujhe yeh message ka answer mat dou nahi tarik. 25th July 2015 aapka wada tha.
27th July 2015 aapne waqt maanga woh aaj hai. Let's see.
27/07/15 08:59:19: Amith D'Silva: I told you several times please answer the phone even if you do not have the money. For what are you ashamed off not talking over the phone. I helped you put with the script, mails. This is what i get in return. This is the reason i never gave u a investor. Jab aap mera paisa de nahi paa rahe ho Investor ka kaha se chuka paonge. I will put this in the papers as well. Where you and your company's name is in jeopardy and you can believe that. Thanks
27/07/15 09:56:29: Amith D'Silva: Today is the final day please don't ask for tomorrow cause i cannot give you another day any more. I am facing problems because of you. Please understand my problem. It is the height now. After giving you time you do not full fill your promise.27/07/15 10:03:04: Amith D'Silva: FYI I will be putting all mails, Screenshots of Arima App Store, your Pan Card Copy with the Pan Number AOZPG4501R, election Card No. RMV1409549, Pritesh's Documents, Messages & Cheque Copies after they bounce.
27/07/15 10:10:08: Amith D'Silva: I helped you with your mails on Arima App Store, The Script of Arima Store and by giving you enough time for the payment. 7 months is a big time. How much longer can I also wait. I have to pay people as well. Why can't you understand my problem. I like to do business in a proper manner to build a long term relationship. I do not have anything against you or your company. I just want my hard work to be paid for.
27/07/15 10:13:25: Amith D'Silva: Even I never charged you for the days you kept the center closed. Ask any center the money is charged when the process is on hold. Now I feel I need to charge you for the Script, Mails and Days that you have told to hold the process Where my billing was on. Who will give so many benefits and what do I get in return no reply from your end and no reply on my payments.
27/07/15 10:21:41: Amith D'Silva: After I put all of this in the newspaper you only think No Investor will Invest in Arima App Store or you anymore. No Call Center will run your process. Problems aapko hoga mujhe nahi. Aapko joke lagta hai to thik hai lekin aaj ka last day hai kal mein cheque dal raha hu. And once the cheque bounces i will start all the other procedures. This is for your information.
27/07/15 11:14:17: Amith D'Silva: As per telephonic talks please send me the receipt of NEFT and RTGS. Please do it by today an please answer my call.
27/07/15 12:01:01: Amith D'Silva: Has the transfer been done. What's happening
27/07/15 12:04:31: Amith D'Silva: I m calling and you are not answering the phone again. Drop a message.
27/07/15 12:19:08: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji please let me know only one thing is the transfer happening or not. Yes or No. I will not disturb you. I will continue with my procedure thereafter. Giving you time till 1 cause there after the banks are closed.
27/07/15 13:34:56: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji mere ghar pe aaye hai ladka cheque lene ke liye jisse maine paise liya tha.
27/07/15 13:36:58: Amith D'Silva: Call 10 minute mein karta hu bolte ho aur call karne pe kaat rahe ho. Dusre ka phone utha rahe ho mera number dekhte hi nahi utha rahe ho.
27/07/15 13:37:15: Amith D'Silva: Messages padh ke anjaan ban rahe ho
27/07/15 14:39:09: Amith D'Silva: I am putting the Cheque of the full amount tomorrow in d morning and have informed the same to the agents thereafter once your cheque bounces will lodge a complain against you and your Company Arima App Store with all the written proofs. Along with the FIR Copy will put it in the papers.
27/07/15 19:11:18: Amith D'Silva: I have tried reaching you several times and you do not have the courtesy of calling or neither answering the phone. You think this is all a joke. But you do not know what We are going through.
27/07/15 20:19:12: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji i don't think u r even bothered about your Company Arima App Store otherwise you would have paid the part payment today as promised by you and as you said in your message that after the
27th of July 2015 to go ahead in lodging a complaint. I am doing the same. So tomorrow We are putting the cheques and if it bounces will drag you to court. Now no need of your messages and calls cause we have given you ample time to full fill your commitment.
27/07/15 20:20:00: Amith D'Silva: Where you have played a fool with our trust.
28/07/15 11:53:53: Amith D'Silva: I have made the post and will post it on Linked In, Facebook, Twitter and everywhere informing of the Fraud you have done. I do not like doing this but since you are not giving my money. I have to do this and make sure no 1 else falls trap to you or Arima App Store.
There are more verbal talks and now Ganesh Godse - +91-9833-168-987 has ran away to Dhanakwadi, Pune, Maharashtra, India.
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