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=== Claiming discrimination ===
=== Claiming discrimination ===
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A major tactic of
those following the Christian worldview is
to claim that discrimination
against gays
is
justified, and to delegitimize homosexual complaints
, by
associating
the
sin
of
homosexual acts with the homosexuals themselves
.
Instead of listening to
the
homosexuals
, they
dismiss
the
claims outright
.
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A major tactic of
homosexuals has been
to claim
"discrimination", but generally without justifying
that
the
discrimination is
unjustified
,
or
by
justifying it on their presumptive view that homosexuality is legitimate.
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Contrary to
the
impression often given by people claiming discrimination in all sorts
of
matters, [[discrimination]] is not itself necessarily a bad thing
.
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People legitimately discriminate all
the
time
,
choosing one flavour of ice cream over another, or choosing to hire a skilled worker over an unskilled worker.
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Governments have always criminalised activities that
they
consider to be unacceptable, such as robbery and rape, and historically homosexual activity was also criminalised for
the
same general reason (that it was considered unacceptable)
.
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[[Discrimination]] has a commonplace definition
that is
benign. For example
,
people can
be
said
to
discriminate in terms of ice cream flavor preference
,
or over workers with different qualifications during
a
hiring process
.
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Yet homosexual activists and their supporters have generally failed to show
that
discrimination against homosexual activities and those who practice them
is
not legitimate
,
except by first deeming homosexuality to
be
legitimate according
to
their worldview (even though this point is widely contested)
,
often supported by misinformation such as the numbers of homosexuals in
a
given population.<ref name="Ruta" />{{ref|[http://www.ewtn.com/library/PROLENC/ENCYC116.HTM Homosexual Orientation and the "Ten Percent" Myth], ''Pro-Life Activist’s Encyclopedia'', American Life League
.
}}
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The legal definition
of discrimination
against minorities
in
the United States has been contructed through Supreme Court cases in the civil rights era. Discrimination in a legal sense in the United States occurs when a group of people is treated differently because of a group of characteristics
they
possess. Making discrimination that has nothing to do with homosexual acts legal is consistent with this definition. Many times acts of discrimination can already
be
illegal
, such
is in the case of violence against people
,
although the prevelance of hate crimes should be
considered in
those numbers and
in
the prevention of violence
.
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In other cases, claims
of discrimination
may be legitimate,
in
that
they
cannot
be
morally justified
,
but
such
cases
,
such as homosexuals being beaten up, were already
considered
unacceptable on other grounds, such as these being physical assaults.
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Yet these cases are often included
in
claims of discrimination
in
order to strengthen otherwise weak arguments
.
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Governments have always criminalised activities that they consider to be unacceptable, such as robbery and rape, and historically homosexual activity was also criminalised for the same general reason, and Christians do not accept homosexuals' arguments for homosexuality. Hence, for homosexual acts,
many
governments and Christians do not think homosexual sex ought to be legal.
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An example illustrating
many
of those points
is that
of comments made
by
United States
judge John E. Jones, in ''Whitewood v. Wood,'' a case in the United States district court in Pennsylvania.{{ref|Jones, U.S. District Judge (20 May 2014), ["Whitewood v. Wolf, No. 1:13-cv1861 http://coop.pamd.uscourts.gov/13-1861.pdf] (See pp. 28-30)", U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania.}}
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An quotation describing the discrimination in the United States
is that by judge John E. Jones, in ''Whitewood v. Wood,'' a case in the United States district court in Pennsylvania.{{ref|Jones, U.S. District Judge (20 May 2014), ["Whitewood v. Wolf, No. 1:13-cv1861 http://coop.pamd.uscourts.gov/13-1861.pdf] (See pp. 28-30)", U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania.}}
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